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my guess is (8+5 = ) total 11 strokes.  (in chinese!)
this is what i think:* r  ^' E4 t6 ~* Y' h8 f, m4 z
8 write in chinese ---> 2 strokes
' g! P: e' \( p$ t4 |8 z1 Atvb now,tvbnow,bttvb5  ''      ''      ''     ---> 5 strokes
- Q+ Q: r4 ?- R0 O. Q+  "      "       "     ---> 2 strokes
1 b0 `$ y$ ]$ z: s9 z& A0 \7 p5.39.217.76=   also                ----> 2 strokes  , so total  11.& q7 k  L  g5 T+ g5 V3 x
let me know if i am wrong....
do you know 8 in traditional chinese, 5 in traditional chinese?
yes
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