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本帖最後由 norman.ho 於 2011-11-2 06:23 PM 編輯
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" [3 A- ^' ?8 P) b5.39.217.76Reposted from: 內地新聞, 中國大陸,阿壩藏僧以死抗爭升級 北京重兵把守 ... http://os.tvboxnow.com/thread-1723453-2-2.html5.39.217.76# f+ v/ i' t \/ }. l, q
The VOA is just another propaganda mouthpiece of the US government. It is far worse than the Fox News; and its sole purpose was aiming at inciting social instability in order to weaken the Chinese economic power, hoping for the disintegration the country as a whole.公仔箱論壇& l' j# K/ Y' @+ q+ o
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As I was watching the video, I noticed there were very little air time given to anyone who voice any opposing view, and the selected interview panel was absolutely one sided. This type of journalistic rubbish would never get aired in the main stream media.tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb8 V6 A; ]0 R" f4 f
& {3 |4 X( \; Q H# `9 V9 [5.39.217.76Here is a copy of my comment to a similar post on this incidence:
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Total crap, its the minority of the younger generation of Tibetan who are being misguided by foreign subversion; all these young gen of Tibetan have to do is to ask their parents/grand parents on how they were enslaved by the Lamas, and how their living condition (health, education, personal wealth) has improved since the central government took over.tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb; i( l* |! O r2 p& r% Y! s+ B) W
I have great respect on the Tibetan people and culture, however, I strong detest those who hijack the religion for self gain. This apply to Christian fundamentalist, extreme Islamic ideology, and the subversive Lamaism used to destabilize our society.& ]" F8 o2 V1 U' ^2 `
Will discuss a bit some other time ...公仔箱論壇, j1 h; H" }8 A0 O$ i
$ Y2 N$ q2 P5 K) i5 W4 ^TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。This post is total crap!
$ e$ } G& z, H2 TLets debunk it one by one:公仔箱論壇0 k4 |% m1 ^% K8 m' c$ l7 k: j: q
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10月19日（週三）報導,
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0 g6 s! X Y" T7 n( ~2 w5.39.217.76, which press? what source?6 n, s4 c* N+ c2 I
& ^0 }) z+ _: Q& ]: t8 t 人權組織稱，從那以後，在阿壩鎮已有五名喇嘛自焚並死亡, ... 現在已有9名僧侶和尼姑在四川及周邊地區自焚，
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Which 人權組織? You couldn't even hide your lie, 5 or 9 自焚? What evidence are there.
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) H7 N6 @3 n4 W5 O$ Z+ J3 C' s5.39.217.76 僧侶和尼姑5 q: ^- N' H. l6 d) Q& ^, B
$ w. j5 i& ?6 ?3 J* l% [4 F5.39.217.76According to the Tibetan tradition, there is no such thing as "尼姑", woman can never admitted to the Lama religion.
2 A% \ b- K' B5 b( q- |公仔箱論壇All these rumor are probably spread by the so call "Free Tibet Movement", which is being bankrolled by the CIA.5.39.217.76- k9 |3 ]3 S) @4 w- o; d/ f( [6 w
When I was at Yunnan, I was told there are over 25 different ethnic groups, living harmoniously together.公仔箱論壇9 X/ l t& o5 l( B. [
I could see why some young locals feel their life style is being threatened. There are now bus loads of tourists (95% are Chinese from different region) coming to XiZang, Qinghai, and Yunnan, these tourists are coming for a holiday, many of them may not be sensitive to the local culture, they are eating up their food, trespassing onto their property, buying up the local artifacts. If I were a young Tibetan being exposed to these for the first time, I would probably feel a bit threatened too. Worse of all, there were some shady tour operators who ripoff both the locals and tourist, and nearly all of these unscrupulous businessman are from other part of China.公仔箱論壇2 j- o/ T* ?) Z
As for the Government, there are lots of good policy and goodwill toward the local ethnic groups. Even though Yunnan as a province is not classified as an autonomous region, but many part of Yunnan, XiZang, QinHai are classified as autonomous regions. So policy like one child policy does not apply to them. And now there is a straight rule that the tour group must employ the local ethnic people as tour guide; and certain amount of levy is charged by the regional authority to each tourist for site refurbishment, and training of the local young people for the tourist industry. As we all know, only the local would have true and intimate knowledge of the particular region.
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那些个喇嘛一不生产、二不创造财富，还要人家养他们TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。. R( o9 N) ]1 W |/ K
8 N5 n. ~) B$ @. U* Etvb now,tvbnow,bttvbThis was true 30 years ago, back then, the lamas are the law, the judge, the army, the teacher, and the doctors.tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb) d5 ^4 G& J+ L3 f0 }/ I. r8 ~
All female were illiterate then, the only way for the boys to get to learn to read and write is by going to the Lama temple.
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What a joke, a majority of the locals are vegetarians, not by choice, they just can't afford meat. Roast potato is some kind of luxury to them.公仔箱論壇" x9 G# n7 |* v8 Q8 y T
Why are the lama the doctors? According to the Tibetan tradition, after someone die, he/she could have a choice of air or water burial. Its the Lama who dissect the body, cut the body into pieces before they are fed to birds or fish. So the Lamas are the only ones with some anatomical knowledge.
s! Z$ j. G# }& k; m1 y7 b5.39.217.76The air and water burial is the tradition Tibetan culture, and I do very much respect that.tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb: F" O0 W- Q/ N4 E* U: z& J
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To be cont .... perhaps some other time.tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb; h& ^! _8 q; l7 z4 D
$ z0 W5 O' k( v' A. o& sTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。Well, I must qualify my previous comments a bit:
) W5 W+ f9 T v4 z" i- W* x! c J公仔箱論壇I really think we should stop calling 藏人, 汉人; China is made up of over 40 different ethnic groups, and we are all brothers and sisters. My ethnic background is from 广东, and I am no more or no less of mainland Chinese then 藏人.TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。8 ~) L$ v8 }8 C2 Z8 K/ t
My impression of people 藏 ethnic origin is that they are proud, intelligent, diligent, friendly and sincere people. And that is my first hand experience. I fully respect their culture and religion and lifestyle.公仔箱論壇. {1 s8 @; s0 l6 l+ V! D
Now having said that, we all know our country is trying very hard to catch up to the international standard in term of economy, politics, military balance and living standard of the general public. We would like our 藏 brother and sister to take part and benefit from this as we go through this process. The traditional 藏 economy was based on agriculture and small scale cattle farming. You may find those terrace paddies so picturesque to look at, try imagine yourself plowing those fields and walking up and down those steep terrace carrying heavy wooden tools and leading a buffalo at the same time.( B( G; [4 P" B/ v1 j; n
We like to give them training on the use modern machinery, educate the young generation on using proper power tools and mechanical skills so they can maintain their own machinery, we want to teach them business skill so they will be able to run their business, take a major role in the tourist and hospitality industry.
5 T0 R" K7 C0 ~) J$ l: N; J9 NAnd actually all these policies are already in place and being carried out, there are many more schools to cater for both the migrant children from other provinces and the local children. The Lama Temples that was discreated during the cultural revolution are now being refurbished to their previous glory.
8 J' a* a# J0 e8 ~. rAnd the Lama religion is well accepted by the central government too. " C! p0 d7 n6 D+ S& _6 z& z
What we don't approve of is a minority Lama monks who instigate to regain their imperial authorities, exploiting their followers in the name of Lamaism and inciting violence., e- [6 X/ D; |0 y G
There is always a role for religion in our society (though I am a stern atheist myself), but we can't allow those so call religious leaders who are trying to exploit their followers and to dominate the local authority.
" d* g( I) B& V+ e, ~; p J9 wFor what I've read, there were 2 young lama monks (18 - 20 years old) who committed self immolation, and there were 3 others who suffered serious injury doing that. Young people of that age are very susceptible to subversive influence, which lead to these terribly incidents. Do we ever see those Lama over 45 doing self immolation? No, those instigators actually call themselves living Buddhas, feasting on beef and getting drunk on Cognacs.
b" {% }& e3 Q* y, L0 _ Ftvb now,tvbnow,bttvbAt his moment, China is seeking a balance on the international stage. So don't let there external subversion cause any instabilities in our society. Remember the disintegration of the old Soviet Union, the killing and suffering of the people due to the civil wars that is happening in Africa? The foreign powers will be laughing their heads off if there is civil war in China, and heaven forbid, if that happens, it would put our economy and living standard backward by at least 50 years.
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