本帖最後由 felicity2010 於 2014-11-27 01:50 PM 編輯 4 O4 n, T6 j6 h$ w2 E! Y公仔箱論壇公仔箱論壇: N$ L7 D, T" }0 V
冷漠，不是無意見，而是一種取態／Richard Scotford : R1 Z# T. a b2 u Q& c- \' U! h* o5 @3 U K
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Posting this picture turned out to be quite a contentious post. It received a lot of interest and shares given my small network. But this is indicative of the circumspect nature of the arrest and nothing to do with me. This is a valid topic so I’m gonna add more. * Y) Q# h, d2 @, u. d公仔箱論壇 3 ]! X( H9 j8 @, j5.39.217.76Firstly, if it cuts to close too the bone then good. I’m not telling you what to think, but I’m challenging you to seek your own truth. The information is out there and 10,000s people’s lives are being affected right across Hong Kong.tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb, @* F0 S. r0 p: m% G
6 K6 j; Q) [9 e. U: SLast night (Tuesday) I sat and watched the casualties coming from the frontline where the police were viciously attacking protesters. They don’t even pretend that they’re being charged anymore, they just hoist up the red flag and plough in. The casualty scene of the protesters was like something out of the Crimean War, with wounded lying on the sides of the road and being attended to by voluntary first aiders. The police NEVER provide any medical backup, they don’t give a shit as to what happens to the people they beat.9 v6 q6 q9 b% k( g
3 u/ \( L! ~, B; n, ^! V" T, ySo, the essence of posting THIS picture goes to whether I’m personally attacking someone for just doing their job and pushing it too far as they’ve got kids and friends and they’re generally nice people. 1 A, w2 ^- ]8 p$ P7 G! U3 K ' h, z, h8 v5 Q1 ]0 Z0 B5.39.217.76Well, the same can be said of the people who were lying beaten from police last night. They also love their kids and are just trying to make a nice life for their family and network in HK. But, loving your friends, family and network is not an exceptional human trait, we all do it. It doesn’t define you as person over and above anyone else. So, that argument is moot. - }" N% E+ w3 |1 m' H0 [; s* n公仔箱論壇 9 a/ A; r% Q, L9 j# ^7 mSo, what about the, just doing my job thing.Well this really is more salient and relevant. Police aren’t the only ones who have to make tough choices and sacrifices, that again is not an exceptional quality, What makes us exceptional is when we’re faced with a decision that has the potential to affect many people around us, we think it through and then beheld personally responsible for it by those it affects. The weak hide behind others or that it’s their job and they had no choice but to carry out orders.2 P+ ^5 y p" k7 d* f
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On top of this, for some, powerful history moves into their lives and whether they like it or not their actions become magnified and subject to a lot more scrutiny than they’re normally used to.Certainly when history comes knocking, don’t go jumping in feet first and then bemoan that you’re being judged and you want to be a private person. In the case of Zulu Charger, he made himself known to the media in his SCMP article and in this case almost busts a vein to get to the front to take down Joshua Wong for highly suspect reasons. . X& |9 \ u; F" e& p; i$ w% r# `* D/ c. l9 `, `( r4 T! y
It’s not just me that’s making a big deal about this… this is all over twitter and social media, who are not shy to even name him. In the case of this arrest,it’s clear to all that have eyes on the situation at the time that it is the red hats who are causing the raucous. Even the bailiffs are focused on the red hats,not the students. Watch the video. If you don’t agree, that’s fine. We all make our own realities. 4 E2 N: q& `+ W% V* q% a5.39.217.76公仔箱論壇) e* R+ M3 j# t7 Z
So, the entire action by the police seems highly suspect to even the most untrained legal eye. In this case society has an absolute right to scrutinise it and if need be judge it in anyway they wish and at any time. For me, who has spent many hours at the front, it is indicative of the nature of the police in HK right now. They are blinded by their myopic intolerance of pro-democracy protesters and it is my intention that everyone should consider this regardless of whether they choose to ignore it. Police just rush in with no idea what’s happening and start taking down protestors and this is exactly what Zulu Charger is doing. No different from all the other videos we see of police taking down people violently, only to be released with no charge later. No professionalism in that, just police gone mad time and time again. People should be worried about this. All of these people,protesters and police love their families and are good to their mates. 8 t: p4 \' O# |1 |8 z ! [1 j$ _0 Q1 P: t: U8 fAs I’ve said before, apathy is not a default setting, it is a positive mind, hiding from this doesn’t make it go away. ) A+ r+ o- A& K8 D/ a, j+ i; U [" mTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。5 x5 N0 p) Z W3 |# b$ q
But my opinion is only small… fortunately this will go to court, and hopefully a court motivated by justice will give us a verdict on this arrest. And then what? Can we still realistically hold on to our views if the court deems no charges. I’m completely prepared to be wrong on this, likewise, those that find this topic challenging should also be prepared for me to be right. + f+ O1 H) G, b, m! B$ f) s! Z" L& h8 E* r, K
After all , there are plenty of nice people that have fallen on the wrong side of history. It still doesn’t make them right cus they were nice guys! + y2 o! o. ]: @$ mTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。5 x; Z3 z8 j8 V4 {+ k
Everyone living in Hong Kong is now being challenged, there is no escaping this, and when history plays out in front of you, we should not hide our heads in the sand and say, no don’t show me that because it’s too close to my world. 6 A3 ?. a* O# g7 E- Q7 B5.39.217.769 k- `5 t# A" T& v' R+ g
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0 M' m! `6 O( z1 h5.39.217.76一句「唔好打人呀」 女子被警大力扯落地 頭撞燈柱入院 L. p6 n1 V8 }6 e1 hTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。 * u- {" M7 [( w5 x1 `- _公仔箱論壇昨晚的警民衝突中，警方多次使用過度武力對付佔領者，甚至連普通市民也不放過。 4 v b' w: N, v6 LTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。# O' R7 R; G d( X# x
讀者黃小姐向本報表示，她晚上收工後途經旺角，其實無意參與任何示威或衝突，只是碰巧見到警民在港鐵站外衝突，於是站在後面位置圍觀。因為見到警察打人，她下意識叫了一句「唔好打人呀」，兩名警員就立即向她說「你講咩野呀！」，然後用力扯她。黃小姐形容，警員情緒極度激動，她一生人無見過如此面目猙獰和恐佈的表情，「完全是殺紅了眼」。 : z$ B6 W0 T( l! |4 E/ R4 s/ u2 nTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。 " P# U3 M* d, N) jtvb now,tvbnow,bttvb兩名警員大力扯她，令她失重心跌向地上，期間頭部大力撞向電燈柱，發出「砰」一聲，被扯跌的過程亦被TVB鏡頭拍下（按此看短片，約1:10起）。 5 @4 F" ~8 E6 A+ btvb now,tvbnow,bttvb 4 V: p2 Q' p( \1 P公仔箱論壇黃小姐指，幸好即時有一個老伯把她拉走，否則肯定會被捕。她後來感到頭部相當疼痛，擔心會有腦震盪，而因為憂慮廣華醫院會有衝突，於是去了瑪麗醫院治理。醫生建議她醫院一天觀察。5.39.217.762 F8 Z! k- R/ \. _
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她批評警方完全失去理智，明明自己無示威無衝擊無犯法（當時站在行人路上），不明白警察為何要這樣襲擊她。 N, o. M1 F% l' Jtvb now,tvbnow,bttvb1 P, }$ k: T5 c# b4 j5 Z
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「佔領行動」在過去兩個月令旺角地區的交通嚴重受阻，旺角彌敦道昨日完成清場行動後，全線恢復行車，警員在各主要路口戒備。昨晚逾2000名激進示威者響應網上號召，昨晚轉戰西洋菜南街，與警方爆發連場激戰，DBC數碼電台拍到警司揮警棍擊打市民後頸片段，並上載到FB被網民瘋傳，一名自稱是片段中被打的市民亦發帖表示：「好想知道個警察係邊個，等我可以投訴」。TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。, e. D; a0 D% H8 [7 T
r, n0 F: C) [& I P* O N片段所見該名男子有按警員指示離開，亦未有作出挑釁或衝擊行為，一名警司卻在旁揮棍打向該名男子的後頸。一名自稱Osman Cheng 網友在FB上表示，自己是被警棍打中的「當事人」，他發帖敘述當時情況：「當時警察根本冇俾足夠空間俾市民離開，當時亦冇需用警棍，我亦中了2棍1腳。我一真都企在行人路的靠牆一邊，並沒有衝擊，如果係咁，不如旺角宵禁啦，出街都唔俾。我好想知道個警察係邊個，等我可以投訴。」TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。9 }9 T3 L0 q. |% K4 A
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