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my guess is (8+5 = ) total 11 strokes.  (in chinese!)
this is what i think:5.39.217.76- b# b# p- M8 _
8 write in chinese ---> 2 strokes& l; w) u, W( w
5  ''      ''      ''     ---> 5 strokes
& `5 q, O) M4 U* M( p公仔箱論壇+  "      "       "     ---> 2 strokes9 p: T6 Q0 G# ]/ u1 y
=   also                ----> 2 strokes  , so total  11.
/ n( `2 T; S/ g# e0 C. Clet me know if i am wrong....
do you know 8 in traditional chinese, 5 in traditional chinese?
yes
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