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my guess is (8+5 = ) total 11 strokes.  (in chinese!)
this is what i think:: Z9 b9 Q, a" ?! M
8 write in chinese ---> 2 strokes5 P  \) E# p0 F5 d: M0 l
5  ''      ''      ''     ---> 5 strokestvb now,tvbnow,bttvb6 G' d5 [/ Z5 t6 R
+  "      "       "     ---> 2 strokes0 D& f- F! G; u
=   also                ----> 2 strokes  , so total  11.
9 P$ g1 T, {* F4 g+ v1 hlet me know if i am wrong....
do you know 8 in traditional chinese, 5 in traditional chinese?
yes
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