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my guess is (8+5 = ) total 11 strokes.  (in chinese!)
this is what i think:5.39.217.76& x' [, W% w: F2 `5 |9 @- q
8 write in chinese ---> 2 strokes5.39.217.769 `1 ]/ ~  o2 t/ C
5  ''      ''      ''     ---> 5 strokestvb now,tvbnow,bttvb; V/ ]: ~4 Q. a5 B1 e1 q+ @. v
+  "      "       "     ---> 2 strokes
3 o, M" o9 Z7 T* }+ p5.39.217.76=   also                ----> 2 strokes  , so total  11.
5 o2 ?, ^  p0 @+ O8 y5 Ztvb now,tvbnow,bttvblet me know if i am wrong....
do you know 8 in traditional chinese, 5 in traditional chinese?
yes
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