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my guess is (8+5 = ) total 11 strokes.  (in chinese!)
this is what i think:% I, R$ S0 Y3 ?4 {$ ?8 g
8 write in chinese ---> 2 strokes4 l1 x6 m* G" Y  B1 W8 l8 |
5  ''      ''      ''     ---> 5 strokes3 J# z! g3 O7 B( d! Z! D8 p  h/ T
+  "      "       "     ---> 2 strokes
7 h- R, X+ E3 J; D* v0 k# t( F公仔箱論壇=   also                ----> 2 strokes  , so total  11.
: G1 k* U& \, {( Vtvb now,tvbnow,bttvblet me know if i am wrong....
do you know 8 in traditional chinese, 5 in traditional chinese?
yes
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