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作者: felicity2010 時間: 2015-9-3 08:36 PM 標題: 立場報道: 敘利亞難民在歐洲的長征

立場報道: 敘利亞難民在歐洲的長征公仔箱論壇) i$ z, c1 J* Z% S" I* ~

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難民不斷湧入歐洲各國，各地都出現了反難民的情緒。不過冰島民眾卻對敘利亞難民伸出援手，要求政府接收更多的難民，甚至開放自己的家園接待難民。

冰島只有大約30萬人口，全國只能接收50名難民。不過當地一名作家兼教授Bryndis Bjorgvinsdottir，日前在Facebook上發出公開信，要求政府接受更多來自敘利亞的難民，瞬間已獲得過萬人響應。Bjorgvinsdottir接受當地電視台訪問，認為國民對難民的態度漸漸改變，「我認為人們已受夠了看到有人在地中海和難民營死亡的新聞，他們現在想為此做點事」。
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不少冰島的網民亦表示，願意為難民提供協助，甚至助他們融入社會，「我有衣服、廚具、床、房間，很樂意和敘利亞人一同分享」、「我希望成為志願者，歡迎他們，並協助他們適應冰島的社會」。有網民就表示自己是一名教師，除了願意為難民提供住宿之外，更可以為小孩子提供教育。

冰島總理甘勞格森（Sigmundur Davíð Gunnlaugsson）表明，留意到民眾的訴求，將會在內閣會議上討論接受難民的問題，評估可以如何在此方面做得更多，「在國際政治議題上，我們一直希望最多的領域上提供協助，而這（難民）問題正是現時最須協助的範疇」。
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由敘利亞到瑞典的長征
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根據歐盟難民庇護法案《都柏林公約》訂明，難民第一個落腳的國家將有責任處理其庇護申請。因此希望北上赴德國等地尋求庇護的難民，就要在沿途經過的國家避開警方的截查。BBC記者就追訪了一名由敘利亞難民，花了足足兩星期逃到瑞典，並記錄了她路上的危險及困難。+ U/ [$ g* X& O/ p

22歲的Nour來自敘利亞，在戰火中失去了父親和家園。她以瑞典為目標，途經的9個國家，走過2000里的路程，一直都要避免遭警方攔截。她在希臘登上巴士，之後往北行，向塞爾維亞進發。
旅途最大的關卡，是要進入匈牙利的境內。匈牙利日前在邊界興建鐵絲圍網，亦加派警力到邊境巡邏阻截非法入境者。Nour為了避開警方耳目，決定在黑夜中步行七小時，最後終於成功入境。
她最後成功到達終點站瑞典，「好像在發夢，在火車上看著窗外，我都在想這是真的嗎？」她最後在瑞典親自接觸當地警方，正式尋求庇護。
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匈牙利阻難民登上火車
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在匈牙利，大批難民希望登上火車前往奧地利及德國等地。早前由於難民人數太多，警方一度放棄干預，容許難民登上火車離開。奧地利警方表示，在周一已有1,000人到達維也納的火車站。
不過及後匈牙利再次收緊政策，拒絕讓難民登上列車離去，做法再次引起群眾不滿。在當地時間周二早上，布達佩斯火車站外有數百名難民聚集，高呼「Hungary, no. Germany, yes.」的口號，要求開放火車站讓他們前往德國。
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匈牙利當局解釋，他們要執行歐盟的規定。而外長西雅爾托表明匈牙利會為難民作登記，但會遣返部分只因經濟問題而來的難民。

歐洲各國應對難民潮的情況公仔箱論壇$ k( y! \% O- o8 W

+ p5 L2 x1 g; Z: n4 H6 g土耳其：難民先偷渡到土耳其，輾轉來其他歐洲地方。不少人乘橡皮艇前往希臘的科斯島，以往多次發生難民中途溺斃的意外。土耳其當局日前明言，不會容許難民在境內工作。TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。5 h( w) y8 }7 n! E1 s
希臘：
科斯島成為接收難民的中心之一，部分人取得臨時證件後就可前往首都雅典。難民潮仍在不斷湧入，希臘海岸衛隊過去數日就救起近2,500名難民。5.39.217.769 T% d4 h& u& w" b8 C1 m$ M0 d* C- ?
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難民潮的重要一站，單日難民入境人數一度高達5,000人。至近日其總理表態，稱願意接收部分難民，亦有報道指塞爾維亞民族對難民態度普遍友善。
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大批難民嘗試乘火車離去，但匈牙利當局近日開始收緊政策，拒絕讓難民登車。當局又設置邊境圍籬，防止再有難民流入。TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。5 s3 F/ D0 V& ?1 }
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上月在貨車發現71具難民屍體，當局即加強邊境檢查，拘捕多名「蛇頭」，奧地利亦呼籲歐盟削減拒絕接收難民國家的經費。- W5 `, ^( N: y, Y! V8 L9 `
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大量難民都視德國為其終點站。當地反難民情緒高漲，曾發生多次針對難民營的縱火案及示威。總理默克爾譴責有關行為，又呼籲各國合作接收難民。

作者: felicity2010 時間: 2015-9-3 08:38 PM

【歐洲難民潮】3歲敘利亞難民伏屍沙灘　相片引發全球關注tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb) h4 U; a+ S1 K1 Q6 i* m

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歐洲難民潮持續，大量難民在地中海船難中死亡。周三有攝影師拍到一名敘利亞男童伏屍土耳其一沙灘上，引發網上極大迴響。全球各傳媒紛紛刊出相片，且未有加工遮掩男童容貌，部分報章更明言，希望透過相片引發大眾關注難民情況。

這輯相片在星期三拍攝，可見一名紅衣藍褲的小男孩俯臥沙灘上，面部半掩在水中，一名土耳其警員在旁查看。小男孩的面容清晰可見，相片非常震撼人心。另一張相片，警員已將男孩小小身軀抱起。
當地傳媒報道指，死者是一名3歲的敘利亞男童Aylan Kurdi，他5歲的哥哥屍體同樣在附近地方被發現。他們生前正試圖跨越地中海並前往希臘的科斯島，以在歐洲展開新生活。
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歐洲多份報章　直接刊出男童死相. I& Q7 p6 S8 x* M
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由於相片涉及兒童屍體，根據以往做法外媒通常都會加工圖片，將男童容貌遮掩。不過今次全球各地多個國際媒體，都未有作加工，將相片清晰刊出，甚至放在報章頭版作大幅報道。tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb" l9 Z9 C& o6 ~% ?* m- e/ f! ~

英國多個大型媒體，都有刊出今次引起爭議的相片。其中《衛報》的報道就附加了警告字眼，表明文章內的相片可能引起讀者不安。《獨立報》的報道，更特別解釋了刊出相片的原因，「《獨立報》決定發布這些相片，因為在一片有關『持續移民危機』的言論之中，很容易會忘記了難民正面臨的絕望情況」。

美國《洛杉磯時報》和《華盛頓郵報》都有刊出爭議相片，未有加工遮掩男童容貌。洛杉磯時報的副總編Kim Murphy解釋，編輯部高層對有關做法有共識，「圖片不是冒犯性、不是血腥、不是無味。它是令人心碎的，是一個鮮明的證詞，去揭開在在敘利亞、土耳其、歐洲發生的人類悲劇」。5 B! p3 U3 m* U0 d, ?6 w
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美國兩大報章《紐約時報》及《華爾街日報》就未有刊出該爭議性相片，而選擇刊出另一張土耳其警員抱起男孩的圖片，相中未能清晰看到男孩面容，爭議性明顯較低。不過《紐約時報》執行編輯Dean Baquet仍形容，刊出的照片力量強大，足以顯示了今次悲劇的嚴重性。TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。; s" H3 K+ t7 o& _4 q8 b  Y/ C6 C
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各地傳媒的做法在網上引發爭論。有記者在Twitter上發表意見，認為有必要這樣刊出相片，令大眾了解了敘利亞戰爭及歐洲庇護難民方面引發的問題。不過亦有傳媒人擔心過份報道該相片，會令人覺得報章是消費這個轟動圖像，並從中獲利，影響大眾對傳媒的觀感。5.39.217.76% ]$ w2 S5 y4 k) M3 u+ P/ W) z& l1 t
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事實上今次各大媒體報道的相片，只是問題的冷山一角。「U.S. Uncut」報道稱，上周有150具難民屍體被沖到利比亞岸邊，當中不少為小孩。不過有關相片被Facebook刪除，網站於是刊出了多張相片，揭示難民兒童的死亡情況。（讀者按連結前請注意，相片可能引起不安）

作者: felicity2010 時間: 2015-9-4 10:12 AM

本帖最後由 felicity2010 於 2015-9-4 10:16 AM 編輯

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圖左：3歲男孩Aylan Kurdi和他5歲哥哥Galip，圖右：網民製作悼念圖片TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。5 j+ {  T2 i; Q& H; R* c/ F

有攝影師拍到一名敘利亞3歲難民伏屍於土耳其的沙灘上，引發網上極大迴響。及後再有報道揭發，男童一家原來曾嘗試申請移居加拿大但遭當局拒絕，令他們決定乘坐偷渡船離開敘利亞，導致今次悲劇發生。tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb; }! E/ k! i! X: \( Z. a6 ]
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該輯相片在星期三拍攝，可見一名紅衣藍褲的小男孩俯臥沙灘上，面部半掩在水中。有報道指出，相片中3歲男孩Aylan Kurdi的5歲哥哥Galip及二人的母親Rehan，同樣在事件中身亡，不過其父親Abdullah仍然生還。5.39.217.76) g. ~! y6 G6 Y. v% }
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各人生前正乘坐橡皮艇前往希臘，橡皮艇當時超載著17人，在地中海翻倒。船上最少有12人死亡。
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有報道就發現Kurdi一家原來有親戚現居於加拿大，並一直希望移居加拿大和親友團聚。其中一名親戚Teema Kurdi在20多年前來到溫哥華，她向傳媒透露有親友日前接到了男童父親Abdullah的電話，證實其妻子和兩名兒子都已經離世，又指他現在無意繼續旅途，只希望能返回家鄉，好好安葬家人。
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Teema Kurdi又表示自己一直協助這家人離開敘利亞，包括申請他們前來加拿大，但至6月有關申請被當局拒絕。小男孩一家在別無選擇之下，決定乘坐偷渡船離開敘利亞，造成今次悲劇。
Teema Kurdi的申請如果成功，就可以讓難民移居加拿大。當局要求難民至少要獲得五位加拿大公民的金錢援助，以確保他們到達後有足夠的經濟支援，不過當局只接受正式有難民身份的人士申請。公仔箱論壇, m( L  x' C2 Z. g
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男童伏屍沙灘的相片，引發全球關注難民正面對的困境。全球各傳媒紛紛刊出相片，且未有「打格」遮掩男童容貌，部分報章更明言，希望透過相片引發大眾關注難民情況。
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No asylum application from Syrian boy's father, say feds
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      Like countless others around the world, Tima Kurdi and Rocco Logozzo had seen the horrifying image -- that of a little boy, his body limp and lifeless, face down on a Turkish beach. Their hearts sank.tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb; S+ f5 K. E. d; M# G  T

      The phone in the couple's Coquitlam, B.C., home rang hours later to deliver the grim news: Kurdi's sister-in-law and her two little boys were dead, drowning as they tried to reach Europe after paying smugglers with the money Kurdi had personally sent to the family from Canada.
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      The dead boy on the beach was her three-year-old nephew, Alan. The harrowing photo has since become a heartbreaking symbol of the plight of Syrian refugees.
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      Kurdi, who came from Syria to Canada more than two decades ago, says she'd hoped to bring her brothers and their families here to escape the horrors of a vicious regime.

      "The love of my life is gone and nobody in the world can bring them back," Tima told The Canadian Press, sobbing into her hands as she sat on her living-room couch on Thursday. "My heart is bleeding right now."tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb) C4 `9 u+ \5 u
      The boys' father, Abdullah Kurdi, described the journey to The Associated Press.6 }  D) n& W6 c1 J, \7 ^# j
      He said the family piled into an overloaded boat in Bodrum, Turkey headed for the Greek island of Kos.5.39.217.76! g5 H% N: i7 J7 R2 v- r" L" f

      The boat's captain panicked due to high waves and jumped into the sea, Abdullah Kurdi said, leaving him in control of the small craft with his family and other migrants aboard.公仔箱論壇* G+ C, [: ]# n! K; H' t

      "I took over and started steering. The waves were so high and the boat flipped. I took my wife and my kids in my arms and I realized they were all dead," he said. "All I want is to be with my children at the moment."
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      The small boat was overloaded with 12 migrants and the Turkish captain, he added. It was only at sea for four minutes when the captain abandoned the craft, Kurdi said.. z, {2 v* w9 K2 [' F$ W

      "My kids were the most beautiful children in the world, wonderful, they wake me up every morning to play with them. They are all gone now," he said.' c9 n& i/ d4 F3 K9 Z) ^
      In Canada, his sister, Tima, burst into tears with her family and friends by her side as she scrolled through photographs of her nephews.8 W1 A  D6 E( Y
      "I want to give my brother Abdullah's message to the world," said Tima. "He said, 'It has to be my kids so the world will wake up."'
      Abdullah is en route back to Syria to bury his wife and two children in the same city they attempted to escape, she added.

      "He doesn't care," she said. "He said, 'I have three coffins with me so if something happens to me they can bury me beside them and then we'll be four."'
      The family's agonizing ordeal dominated Canada's election campaign on Thursday, especially when Rocco Logozzo, Kurdi's husband, told The Canadian Press that the family had put in a private sponsorship request for the boys and their parents but was turned down in June.& @2 N/ Q3 y- n. l$ Y) _3 w$ ~
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      He assailed Canada's refugee system as ineffectual, adding his family had money and plenty of room to house the Kurdi boys and their parents in Coquitlam, B.C.# K) T5 b4 [9 A! _- t! N$ [! _( k
      Within hours, however, Citizenship and Immigration Canada said it received no refugee application from the father of the two drowned boys.
      It did, however, receive an application for Abdullah Kurdi's brother, Mohammed, but said it was incomplete and did not meet regulatory requirements for proof of refugee status recognition.

      Tima Kurdi confirmed later in the day that her family had only made an official request for Mohammed Kurdi, explaining she and her husband could only afford to sponsor one brother. They planned to apply for Mohammed first and subsequently bring Abdullah and his family to Canada.tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb# M7 d# c" V# z* a

      Her distraught recounting of her attempts to bring her family members to Canada underscored the desperation and difficulties that confront would-be refugee claimants and their families.

      She said it was impossible to secure all the necessary documents for her brother, Mohammed, given the dire situation in Syria.0 v6 q, @8 c7 Q) L: V& b; u- i
      "How would you feel when people are running from the border and the Turkish border guards are shooting in the air? What would you do?" she said.5.39.217.76$ [4 ~. K3 {+ n" d
      Because she suspected an application for Abdullah would have been rejected on similar grounds, Tima said she decided to send money to bring the family across the Mediterranean by boat.5.39.217.76' x! \( v. `9 L5 N8 N* V( M
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      "I'm not asking the government to spend money on them," said Kurdi. "I sent him the money to cross the water."
      She added a B.C. politician personally delivered a letter to Chris Alexander, the citizenship and immigration minister, asking for help.
      The NDP candidate, Fin Donnelly, said the letter to Alexander reflected the family's attempts to bring both Abdullah and Mohammed Kurdi's families to Canada. He said he delivered the letter to Alexander in March, but denied telling media organizations that the federal government had turned down the family's sponsorship request.

      Logozzo, meantime, said the Kurdis were desperate.- J4 a8 v- k4 r) T  u  V: q
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      "When they heard (the refugee application) failed, they lost all hope, and in a desperate situation, you make all these wrong decisions," Logozzo said as he explained why his relatives opted to get on the boat to try to get to Europe.5.39.217.76! G9 C. X% w6 ~+ i& E
      The Kurdi boys and their mother were among at least 12 migrants, including five children, who drowned Wednesday when two boats carrying them to the Greek island of Kos capsized.

      Alexander, who suspended his campaign to return to Ottawa to deal with the crisis, said he was "deeply saddened" by the image of the drowned boy.% F1 q8 z  F& o, d/ S: P
      He added Prime Minister Stephen Harper has set a target for Canada to accept 23,000 Iraqis refugees and 11,300 Syrians.tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb) d0 }6 m6 O2 K* h
      "Of that number Canada has already resettled nearly 22,000 Iraqis and 2,300 Syrians," Alexander said.

      When asked about Kurdi's letter, Alexander said that he passed it on to his department, where it was "treated expeditiously, and in the same way that any other correspondence and application would be treated."

      "Let's be clear, the application was for Mohammed Kurdi and his family...it was not rejected or turned down, it was returned to the applicant with a request for additional documentation."

      Harper, for his part, was emotional in Surrey, B.C., when he recalled seeing the photo of Alan Kurdi's lifeless body on a sunny seashore.5.39.217.768 \5 a: e! V* t: {) B
      "The first thing that crossed our mind was remembering our own son Ben at that age running around," Harper said, his voice breaking. "It brings tears to your eye."+ U7 u$ L' \, u
      About 250,000 people have been killed and more than one million wounded in Syria since March 2011, according to UN officials. More than half the country's population has been displaced, including more than four million who have fled Syria.+ L2 J6 \1 Q) b

      The route between the Turkish community of Bodrum and Kos -- just a few kilometres -- is one of the shortest from Turkey to the Greek islands, but remains dangerous. Hundreds of migrants a day attempt the perilous sea crossing despite the risks.
      A UN panel reported Thursday that more than 2,000 Syrians have drowned in the Mediterranean while trying to reach Europe since 2011 and said there's no end in sight to Syria's civil war.

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作者: billzhang 時間: 2015-9-4 03:42 PM

自由民主的欧洲人怎么可以让这些事情发生，这些事情不是应该发生在独裁专制的中国吗？点解会在欧洲发生了，这个不是真的，这个是那些自干五陷害自由民主的欧洲，这些人去了欧洲那么那些美分怎么去啊，

作者: felicity2010 時間: 2015-9-4 09:49 PM

3歲Alan伏屍海灘照逼使歐洲各國正視難民政策8 m% O T0 q) I; w. A6 ]
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3歲難民Alan Kurdi伏屍沙灘的相片震撼全世界，亦令歐洲各國不能再忽視迫在眉睫的難民問題。多國領袖都有回應事件，而歐盟委員會將提出建議，強制各國分擔難民責任。
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德國及歐盟委員會自5月以來，一直致力推動成立一個強制性機制，讓各國分擔難民。歐盟委員會主席容克日前表示，將會在下周三提出一項建議，強制要求歐盟其中25個國家，合力分擔16萬名難民的重擔。公仔箱論壇* W9 t4 {; i2 x$ R! Q& O
歐洲理事會主席圖斯克早前形容，不能原諒事件分裂歐洲各國，又強調歐盟國家應該平均分配最少10萬名難民，「如果各國領袖不願意表現出善意，所謂的團結就只是空洞的口號，並會被政治敲詐、分裂，和互相指責的行為取代」。tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb% ^4 p9 i1 v) ]4 j* P- D- f
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3歲難民Alan Kurdi伏屍沙灘的相片震撼全世界，亦令歐洲各國不能再忽視迫在眉睫的難民問題。多國領袖都有回應事件，而歐盟委員會將提出建議，強制各國分擔難民責任。
德國及歐盟委員會自5月以來，一直致力推動成立一個強制性機制，讓各國分擔難民。歐盟委員會主席容克日前表示，將會在下周三提出一項建議，強制要求歐盟其中25個國家，合力分擔16萬名難民的重擔。
歐洲理事會主席圖斯克早前形容，不能原諒事件分裂歐洲各國，又強調歐盟國家應該平均分配最少10萬名難民，「如果各國領袖不願意表現出善意，所謂的團結就只是空洞的口號，並會被政治敲詐、分裂，和互相指責的行為取代」。TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。. y+ b9 D l( c6 O+ y
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另外法國總統奧朗德早前與德國總理默克爾通電話，雙方均認為必須訂定強制機制，將難民平均分配予歐盟各國。法國方面在難民議題上表態，被視為默克爾推動難民政策的重要一步。
英國首相卡梅倫表示自己作為父親，看到該3歲男童伏屍的相片後深感震撼。不過他又強調難民問題複雜，非簡單加大接收難民的配額就能解決問題。在英國有民眾發起網上聯署，要求當局提高接受難民的配額，已獲超過30萬人簽名支持。卡梅倫及後宣布，英國現時已接收了約5,000名敘利亞難民，未來會進一步接收「數千名」難民。不過卡梅倫未有透露具體細節，指會在下星期再作公布。5.39.217.76% N+ q! }1 M8 W/ ]! b( s

今次遇難的敍利亞男童生前計劃移居加拿大，令外界關注到加拿大有否妥善處理難民問題。加拿大總理哈珀（Stephen Harper）回應事件，形容悲劇令人心痛。正為下月大選準備的哈珀又承諾，一旦連任就會採取更多措施幫助敘利亞人民逃離暴力。哈珀又強調加國一直對敘利亞提供人道協助，包括向聯合國撥款幫助當地難民。公仔箱論壇1 d3 J0 @. m; j; p% W2 X

俄羅斯總統普京就認為，西方國家是做成難民問題的元兇。他表示在幾年前，已警告過西方國家，若將西方的標準強加在中東和非洲之上，就會造成如今的後果。他批評西方忽視了中東和非洲的文化和歷史，造成今次難民問題。tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb0 @% M) _! A4 n9 P
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作者: billzhang 時間: 2015-9-5 12:00 AM

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