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大家要有心理準備，更大的暴力還在前面。Philip Zimbardo在「The Lucifer Effect: understanding how good people turn bad」一書最後，認為要制止暴虐，需要在「重要時刻做出英雄之舉」的平民，喝止暴行，紀錄暴行，令穿上制服掩飾個人身份者知道他們的暴行及身分會被公開。而泛民政客在批評雙學時，也應在金鐘清場更大規模暴力發生前夕，向政府作集體警告。作者: felicity2010 時間: 2014-12-3 08:41 AM
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The police routes of protesters last night were nothing more than akin to chasing birds of the lawn and thinking you’re tough for doing it. One person can easily route 100s of birds, because they DON’T FIGHT BACK. likewise, 20 PTU violently thrashing at everyone will route100s. ( i6 s3 f5 ]( {% s2 ftvb now,tvbnow,bttvb6 @, s9 Q1 ]( v7 j' u# y
The confidence of the hardcore police units to beat protesters is shown in the fact that they don’t even bother to carry shields. Just batons so they can move fast, hit hard and feel like they are somehow powerful. % s# p, V( u& W# O+ d0 R6 J * N2 h- j9 a! O公仔箱論壇Unfortunately, HK’s Black Police Force, they are now unashamed of this now and happily cheer and jeer at the protesters when they think they’ve scored victory, misunderstands this fight. They think it’s about power. When the Police completed their last charge this morning and stomped right into the main protester site, they were high on what they thought was a victory for them after a terrible night of collapse after collapse.公仔箱論壇5 f6 K/ C7 h" k! a9 c
, J1 u5 J4 l9 E# x* f公仔箱論壇And then this morning we hear CY pipe in that the protesters should not mistake the HK Police forces restraint with weakness.Which we could say exactly the same thing about the protesters. & d* v: Q1 y4 o$ t9 B9 f! y 4 v9 `- h) A7 d; @% oLast night, I spent a fair amount of time discussing with protesters who had found a huge stash of bricks right next to Lung Wo Rd, the heart of the battle. After being routed once by the police, people were angry and wanted to use the bricks against the PTU.Everyone knew they would come again, no one was surprised and some protestors wanted to hit back at the PTU when they came cockily charging. Fortunately,good sense prevailed and we managed to convince them that bricks would not help the cause. So the bricks remained untouched!# }% b+ t, V8 ]8 H) B! H
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$ t2 M4 a6 ~- ?TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。The point is, which I’ve said all along is it is beyond preposterous to say that the reason there have been no major injuries so far is because of the restraint of the police. This is both ignorant and naive to believe or say. The reason why there has been no extreme violence is because of the restraint and good sense of an ad-hoc group of protestors who constantly squabble and bicker over method but all share the same high goal. ) h! i& D# q d. G7 P! ctvb now,tvbnow,bttvbTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。6 t6 K4 ^8 @& q
There is no rational or logical connection between no negotiation and therefore straight to violence. People try to sell us this idea, and often we accept it blindly as though this is a normal state for citizens to be in with their government and police. But it’s not rational.Just like in our homes, if a person is being defiant, we’re not justified ingoing Route One to physical violence. The same is true for politics, or I can’t negotiate with these people therefore I will just brutalise them.0 p; s5 f* l0 O% l( b
1 i: L8 J2 Y4 r: @& gTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。So in this light, how can we see last night's event? Certainly the police got routed twice to start and then the police routed the protesters twice. So was it a draw? Maybe the police won? Their route took minutes whereas the protesters push took hours. 1 n: n+ x# J9 R7 n, a公仔箱論壇6 s4 ^# l+ W# K. B; O
The fact is, this is a true Civil Disobedience Movement and in such a fight, the protestors need to show the inhumanity and unreasonableness of the Government. And the best way to do this is to prove that the Gov will choose violence over discussion and negotiation and will brook no dissent and instead violently clamp down on it. G V" D) z( B) _公仔箱論壇5.39.217.76. d6 _3 M( O! R V. ?
After 64 days, the HKFS call to action proved that the government will not and cannot compromise. Maybe you already knew that and think people didn’t need to push it so far to show this. But again this is naive. There’s a significant difference between personally believing and proving. Whatever your thoughts on the Occupy Movement, your opinions on the HK Gov and Police are changed forever and will never return back to what they once were. As for the young people of Hong Kong, The police and Gov have lost an entire generation. they will not forget what they saw. This is the success of the Occupy Movement. This was the victory from last night. 8 m9 \, n% [# p/ q- Atvb now,tvbnow,bttvb ( } ]% n& M1 YTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。Everyone's future in HK is at stake here. The Government has proved itself to be unashamedly malign to a significant proportion of the population and the HK Police have proven beyond doubt that they will happily run any of the government’s detractors off the street time and time again. The Police Force and Gov are stripped of any shame.They may well win by shear brute force , but they will never be able to get people’s trust. That has gone forever.! j1 s* f5 t; Z8 Y& @5 k" F) z$ H& H
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更甚者，我們更收到在金鐘參與自發急救工作的義工報告，有義工在為海富中心大堂為懷疑暈倒的便衣警員檢查時，遭另一警員不問情由，從後猛力拳擊，因而受傷。, c2 o8 L4 {; d+ b( I
6 k2 h& f! p; M0 S5.39.217.76即使是在真正荷槍實彈的戰爭裡頭，軍人都知道何謂人道主義，知道無論任何情況下，嚴禁攻擊醫療人員乃係國際慣例。我們的義工團隊之中，有不少曾經參與國際人道救援工作，卻從未受到如此對待。萬沒想到，竟然在太平盛世的香港，會有警察殺紅了眼，對長久以來救傷扶危，守護港人的醫護人員施以暴力，行徑幾 近瘋狂。何況事發期間，傷者實為警務人員，急救團隊本著中立的人道精神伸出援手，反遭其同袍襲擊，可見警隊已經情緒失控，喪失理智。如此執法者，怎不令人心寒。 " H9 g/ L M1 A. G5.39.217.76 # w/ p) a# D3 M+ O& M" ~tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb醫護無懼暴力 意志更為堅定 : F" k; R5 } NTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb J; A0 G1 m+ ?# k; D
可恨的是，梁振英政府非但並未對此作出譴責，居然於翌日對警方濫用暴力加以肯定，以為血腥暴力可以嚇退我們。但事實上自從醫護人員遭暴力對待的消息傳出以來，報名參加義務急救工作者以數倍增長，我們守護香港的意志亦更為堅定。TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。! W; g x. r2 J) l2 Z
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石可破也，而不可奪堅；丹可磨也，而不可奪赤。公仔箱論壇+ J- U: w! r: x5 F
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我們對警方向市民及醫護人員施以暴力，作出最嚴厲的譴責。TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。1 ]2 S" m" d9 \# L& X$ o# @7 N
我們憤怒了。 " G5 L; a8 v7 ?公仔箱論壇 # c1 _$ X7 Z7 _; M. s# g$ B: Z但我們從未想過退縮。生於亂世，我們無路可退。 ; ]2 x) b1 ~; @5 n K與港人共勉之5.39.217.76* w1 Z$ K/ v2 B( b5 ?- }
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