本帖最後由 felicity2010 於 2014-12-3 08:40 AM 編輯 / I; I) k4 t3 O* o ) k' R6 {2 X o3 H$ d! M劉細良: 冷血心理 $ _5 _2 q3 ~$ T S$ O, `公仔箱論壇/ L3 o+ i1 [$ a$ F
( ^: [5 `8 G8 o' I5 V8 V9 K& X恐嚇女示威者「帶妳返差館強姦」、警司亂毆途人、六七人圍毆失去行動能力示威者,由起初喑角演變成公開群毆、攻擊示威者關節、頭部、向示威者舉中指、清場後在添馬公園拍紀念照⋯⋯。 # B! Y' \( |, v4 v* ttvb now,tvbnow,bttvbTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。) \3 ]$ p5 n. p7 _' K5 {& Q$ A
我自小對警察暴力的認識，是1971年7月7日維園保釣運動威利警司打穿學生頭，事件成為殖民地鎮壓本土青年運動的象徵，在大學及社運界流傳三十多 年，亦曾拍成電影「玻璃之城」。而雨傘運動被扑爆頭的示威者及普通市民，超過了殖民地時代鎮壓的總和，甚至超過了六七年左派暴力（放炸彈）抗爭受傷總和。; t- _5 a, B$ U- S u
7 E. x7 ]# F G0 N5.39.217.76九十年代開始警察為迎接回歸，避免市民憂慮「公安武警化」，在曾蔭培領導下進行了管理及形象改革，警署報案室變成酒店大堂、警察「民警化」，換掉了殖民地時代「準軍事形象」，如草錄色軍服改為藍色，曾幾何時，形象成功轉化，直至這兩個月前。7 h* j; Q. x% |* H9 R1 I
. T7 c$ n+ B" `& p9 }公仔箱論壇 ) }4 E$ Y$ R8 C, E B* Xtvb now,tvbnow,bttvb大家要有心理準備，更大的暴力還在前面。Philip Zimbardo在「The Lucifer Effect: understanding how good people turn bad」一書最後，認為要制止暴虐，需要在「重要時刻做出英雄之舉」的平民，喝止暴行，紀錄暴行，令穿上制服掩飾個人身份者知道他們的暴行及身分會被公開。而泛民政客在批評雙學時，也應在金鐘清場更大規模暴力發生前夕，向政府作集體警告。作者: felicity2010 時間: 2014-12-3 08:41 AM
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CHASING BIRDS OFF THE LAWN (麻鷹捉雞仔)／Richard Scotfordtvb now,tvbnow,bttvb; S4 e3 `2 S& P5 V8 @; Z
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) x- N3 b; `! _7 ? mTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。The police routes of protesters last night were nothing more than akin to chasing birds of the lawn and thinking you’re tough for doing it. One person can easily route 100s of birds, because they DON’T FIGHT BACK. likewise, 20 PTU violently thrashing at everyone will route100s. / l4 w# {2 I5 H1 sTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。$ h. n: r: Z, i' l+ h/ K4 ~
The confidence of the hardcore police units to beat protesters is shown in the fact that they don’t even bother to carry shields. Just batons so they can move fast, hit hard and feel like they are somehow powerful. 3 I+ v# M' c" }# ]9 b+ m + C! g7 H- y3 r4 f; K# u( a5 C9 E3 r' ^Unfortunately, HK’s Black Police Force, they are now unashamed of this now and happily cheer and jeer at the protesters when they think they’ve scored victory, misunderstands this fight. They think it’s about power. When the Police completed their last charge this morning and stomped right into the main protester site, they were high on what they thought was a victory for them after a terrible night of collapse after collapse.tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb/ O' C* c" Y/ H% r6 D I4 ~! }! r
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And then this morning we hear CY pipe in that the protesters should not mistake the HK Police forces restraint with weakness.Which we could say exactly the same thing about the protesters. 9 J. {- E0 ^- ~8 z7 W5.39.217.76 / N) W- k& o4 \+ |6 DTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。Last night, I spent a fair amount of time discussing with protesters who had found a huge stash of bricks right next to Lung Wo Rd, the heart of the battle. After being routed once by the police, people were angry and wanted to use the bricks against the PTU.Everyone knew they would come again, no one was surprised and some protestors wanted to hit back at the PTU when they came cockily charging. Fortunately,good sense prevailed and we managed to convince them that bricks would not help the cause. So the bricks remained untouched!公仔箱論壇% `1 E% c& i6 k/ r: t% c6 p
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The point is, which I’ve said all along is it is beyond preposterous to say that the reason there have been no major injuries so far is because of the restraint of the police. This is both ignorant and naive to believe or say. The reason why there has been no extreme violence is because of the restraint and good sense of an ad-hoc group of protestors who constantly squabble and bicker over method but all share the same high goal.' W$ A/ s% l: d9 @9 v% \; s
# h8 u: N" f$ @* m8 v2 A6 |4 ^tvb now,tvbnow,bttvbThere is no rational or logical connection between no negotiation and therefore straight to violence. People try to sell us this idea, and often we accept it blindly as though this is a normal state for citizens to be in with their government and police. But it’s not rational.Just like in our homes, if a person is being defiant, we’re not justified ingoing Route One to physical violence. The same is true for politics, or I can’t negotiate with these people therefore I will just brutalise them. $ X; N& m" Z$ K. j4 n/ B5 N y, ETVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。公仔箱論壇! j& O) K# j' U
So in this light, how can we see last night's event? Certainly the police got routed twice to start and then the police routed the protesters twice. So was it a draw? Maybe the police won? Their route took minutes whereas the protesters push took hours. ; I+ F5 W3 Y1 Y$ B0 m5.39.217.76 % j0 n# t z. W- d# A4 i+ nThe fact is, this is a true Civil Disobedience Movement and in such a fight, the protestors need to show the inhumanity and unreasonableness of the Government. And the best way to do this is to prove that the Gov will choose violence over discussion and negotiation and will brook no dissent and instead violently clamp down on it.公仔箱論壇 g. u7 i1 J. G1 f m% q, X3 p0 M
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After 64 days, the HKFS call to action proved that the government will not and cannot compromise. Maybe you already knew that and think people didn’t need to push it so far to show this. But again this is naive. There’s a significant difference between personally believing and proving. Whatever your thoughts on the Occupy Movement, your opinions on the HK Gov and Police are changed forever and will never return back to what they once were. As for the young people of Hong Kong, The police and Gov have lost an entire generation. they will not forget what they saw. This is the success of the Occupy Movement. This was the victory from last night.公仔箱論壇& o0 c j+ f& h3 S) g8 l
" r/ g d3 M4 w( J7 c公仔箱論壇Everyone's future in HK is at stake here. The Government has proved itself to be unashamedly malign to a significant proportion of the population and the HK Police have proven beyond doubt that they will happily run any of the government’s detractors off the street time and time again. The Police Force and Gov are stripped of any shame.They may well win by shear brute force , but they will never be able to get people’s trust. That has gone forever.5.39.217.76" ?4 O& V$ G! W( P' G. _6 V
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【文、圖來自作者 Facebook，題為編者所加】作者: felicity2010 時間: 2014-12-3 08:46 AM
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作為一群義務工作的醫生、護士、以及急救員，我們自佔領運動開始至今，六十多天，每天廿四小時，從未間斷在佔領區服務市民。公仔箱論壇5 u( n+ d5 q) P4 R# `8 _
. `) o6 l4 W9 q. j" Q由一開始主要為市民處理肢體損傷及催淚彈或胡椒噴霧造成的傷害，以至後來轉而主要照顧佔領區的老弱、病患者，兩個月以來，我們的取態非常清晰。我們要求參與義工保持其行動政治中立，禁止以義工身份叫喊口號，甚至直接參與示威。其主要目的，就是避免製造對立，以求繼續在場執行救傷扶危的天職，照顧不同 政治立場市民的健康。1 R/ b3 T3 r2 w. x! s. [7 P
8 s& {8 l; Q \1 W+ Q! s' w公仔箱論壇因此，當我們的急救工作受到警察無理阻撓時，我們感到極度震驚及憤慨。tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb: V+ j% u5 v. S/ E
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