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其他關於<黑色星期天>的資料: 公仔箱論壇3 {- Y3 V5 J& w! X& I
English translation of the original tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb7 q/ @3 h, ~/ i, s: u( l
The original song was written in 1933 by two Hungarians, Rezso Seress (music) $ N5 G; X1 h: Vand Laszlo Javor (lyrics), and consisted of the first two stanza 8 F: C3 N" I" b" n m1 jonly -- the last stanza was added later, also first in Hungarian, TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。% F, I% ~, [& e% w6 s# D) B
as Zoe Orosz from Hungary pointed out to me. $ A# ]8 L5 C6 [ N: x; d, ~* A2 t6 m5.39.217.76Zoe added: 9 F9 K! k' a- k3 ]- W" _
Actually, the second part of the song in Hungarian is not so reassuring at all. 6 U8 p( h5 ^2 ]# d& |$ D$ E
It is if at all possible, much gloomier than the first two stanzas, almost apocalyptic. 公仔箱論壇% s+ o4 n, g% g5 Y% O3 `, {
It looks like the pessimism of the song was too much for the translators and they made their translation a happier one. ' ?' T% k4 E1 o- K
In that case one might argue that the translator has done a bad job ; S: j7 N2 _+ x$ K/ a
and 'ruined' the song, or in other words: a translator has to maintain the original spirit 4 C9 l0 c* D1 K( P3 S5.39.217.76and intentions of the song. On the other hand, 5.39.217.76) N( x3 N$ J+ q4 p# m
a translator may also be more than just a translator and based on the original create a new song. tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb0 G3 K0 n# J4 D8 i6 J
Perhaps the Sam Lewis mentioned in the credits is responsible for this. 2 E# e0 ?# C# H: P! w" D5.39.217.76 . E ~7 o/ ^3 W8 O5.39.217.76Zoe Orosz also made a translation into English of the original Hungarian song, adding: m' l5 n1 ~" |1 h B, fTVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。It looks like Javor wrote the first part and Seress the second. It is very-very gloomy. 公仔箱論壇1 e2 C+ o2 S6 Q5 V
It seems to refer to the horrors of a war at the end. $ r* x4 k! o/ |8 l
I'm glad that there's an English version that makes it less terrible. To be honest, 9 M/ `' Q1 t; o# `4 e u( cTVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。I don't think it was ruined at all. We are a very pessimistic people, 0 K& M5 Z4 l! t* P8 f' l1 gTVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。so maybe it was good after all that it was not made popular in its original form. x: C3 T$ M3 n+ f ) g0 m$ Y/ X6 Y! @9 s5 I4 c2 Atvb now,tvbnow,bttvbThe war Zoe mentions could be the First World War, as the song originates from the 1930s. 7 w1 a/ w- ?- r+ S, x; {5 @6 m! G3 kTVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。But since the second part of the song is even more gloomy than the first part, # g v4 C" v" q- e; r$ R% E
the second part may have been added after the Second World War. " p3 e |" \ }; e' e4 hTVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb5 v! S. n* i0 H! x! e; g5 s5 Z) r
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Someone said that: 9 [- R) R' j, `% i5.39.217.76I like this song very much! It is a little jazzy, and Sarah's singing and the music create the right mood for the song. TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。$ z4 w7 \" I! U" E+ F' ~
One thing is very strange, though. The mood changes between the second and the third stanza, TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。( E# C- @) f, _( F, S4 h8 Y
because she wakes up and realises that the gloomy first two stanzas were nothing but a dream and the third stanza is then more chearful. 9 s) @3 Q4 y3 I. E* N0 STVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。This change of mood is strangely rather abrupt: TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。# s: C1 U1 b7 V6 ~/ k" }8 f. d
the pause is less than a second -- Sarah has barely enough time to catch her breath. 5.39.217.769 f! D5 m; S7 n3 P# \' f
I would have expected the change in mood between stanzas two and three to be build up a little more gradually, 公仔箱論壇 Y+ ~; g* }* m. d
in five to ten seconds or so. After all, waking up and realising that it was a dream takes time. 6 D5 o8 C" E( ]2 h: Y" C+ ^( I
Hazan suggested that the last stanza could still be part of the dream: the singer has lost her lover, 1 V5 G8 V3 g2 U+ g' t: B4 r* X5 Ztvb now,tvbnow,bttvbcontinues her mourning in her dream, and as a reaction to the pain wishes it was all but a dream: 6 A, u/ b; c3 _% Utvb now,tvbnow,bttvb"I find you asleep in the deep of my heart", not next to her in bed. * C& P2 ~2 O0 T, |! e0 TI do not think this is what is meant here. The change of mood, the use of the words tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb( F l+ E( |. w5 U- ^
"I was only dreaming / I wake" and also the lines "I hope / : x: ?$ o# A qtvb now,tvbnow,bttvbthat my dream never haunted you" make me think that the singer has woken up TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。: b& |" s5 G+ y0 h
(though the whole text is written in the past tense).& I; A) P! C: u9 z3 @3 L+ ^( v
9 p: z7 G$ Y. M6 }% o% M! f ( x+ V0 \4 I& o( M2 o! Ftvb now,tvbnow,bttvb多關於黑色星期天,大概都話呢首歌係1930s死左好多人,後來禁左.後來出左英文版先無咁恐怖(之前應該仲恐怖) % m; _, N; e% V0 [9 S5 ?TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。"It seems to refer to the horrors of a war at the end. ' w1 P3 }/ k& ~( ~$ d! ?+ C3 _( {
I'm glad that there's an English version that makes it less terrible. ) ^# Q. m1 @3 V E) o6 D8 `To be honest, I don't think it was ruined at all.We are a very pessimistic people, 5.39.217.76' X4 B- [0 G! P! v
so maybe it was good after all that it was not made popular in its original form." 公仔箱論壇9 G3 I2 G* Z$ P# w
就係呢個啦.... tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb) a( `9 w/ e( J: b; A
仲有套movie係關於首歌,叫做"Ein Lied von Lieve und Tod -- Gloomy Sunday"( x, r. j+ s0 `/ v- B( g
TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。9 I9 Y J/ h- K' m* w# E+ ^* d% y
3 C7 l( p: q0 D- C4 n1 a5.39.217.76作曲者不是法國的,而是匈牙利的Rezso Seress,1935年作。 公仔箱論壇 ?$ I0 G- M, \* A1 `
被翻成了無數版本,英文是其中之一 # S, S' k0 v- k0 ]5 O* [/ Q+ O
翻唱者: 公仔箱論壇' A! w# r5 C) T& A! `3 I( D& u
Billie Holliday, Louis Armstrong, Sammy Davis Jr., Elvis Costello, Stan Kenton, Ray Charles, 9 C/ ^$ J, I! \- ?: z5.39.217.76Josephine Baker, Sinead O’Connor, Maurice Chevalier, Tom Jones, Mantovani, Lydia Lunch, Bjork, 5.39.217.76) @0 ^) N5 N" \; F j4 k) c4 s4 d% e3 w
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