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其他關於<黑色星期天>的資料: 2 v; ?9 S1 \5 WTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。English translation of the original * g; X2 Y! B0 U- j# HTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。The original song was written in 1933 by two Hungarians, Rezso Seress (music) 5.39.217.76* u) h3 b; _7 E. G# ^8 B
and Laszlo Javor (lyrics), and consisted of the first two stanza ; M' M! {; f( v. |5 A5.39.217.76only -- the last stanza was added later, also first in Hungarian, 5.39.217.76! D6 h. F0 u7 m0 o5 T, q3 T- x/ G& W
as Zoe Orosz from Hungary pointed out to me. 公仔箱論壇9 |: T8 {# t9 F: H& _
Zoe added: TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。6 M# v& C' @; @, N/ ^0 f
Actually, the second part of the song in Hungarian is not so reassuring at all. 公仔箱論壇: r* k! k3 g6 n4 t9 ?7 f5 L
It is if at all possible, much gloomier than the first two stanzas, almost apocalyptic. ! V! n0 y# f7 y' P5.39.217.76It looks like the pessimism of the song was too much for the translators and they made their translation a happier one. & m/ U( B. q9 I kIn that case one might argue that the translator has done a bad job 9 T' p Y; y7 K) Mand 'ruined' the song, or in other words: a translator has to maintain the original spirit + S0 s2 H8 [2 d' {& {5 @+ Band intentions of the song. On the other hand, - W8 a/ t6 g; d. [ _6 a8 A' j
a translator may also be more than just a translator and based on the original create a new song. 公仔箱論壇$ g7 T( a$ y3 p2 O; U
Perhaps the Sam Lewis mentioned in the credits is responsible for this. 公仔箱論壇+ ~ ?4 C4 W% ~! n( M
* T4 y3 b+ k, x' O% `# dTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。Zoe Orosz also made a translation into English of the original Hungarian song, adding: 1 I0 P: y+ [" r$ w0 ~3 ]: u% ?It looks like Javor wrote the first part and Seress the second. It is very-very gloomy. 7 ?4 {9 L: o" o6 d: SIt seems to refer to the horrors of a war at the end. % ?8 A1 u& P% C* G6 Q d
I'm glad that there's an English version that makes it less terrible. To be honest, ' J8 x, H& B- R2 E! ytvb now,tvbnow,bttvbI don't think it was ruined at all. We are a very pessimistic people, 6 a/ t: x6 W; f% {) r1 T& ptvb now,tvbnow,bttvbso maybe it was good after all that it was not made popular in its original form. # ?7 }" ]1 w- M
1 ~9 t+ Z ~( q, ntvb now,tvbnow,bttvbThe war Zoe mentions could be the First World War, as the song originates from the 1930s. 3 h, N7 s* m- r/ S! `2 BBut since the second part of the song is even more gloomy than the first part, ) F/ @- T2 L: ~9 o* J- A& mthe second part may have been added after the Second World War.TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。( P7 @- d$ `- ?! D" P6 b& @
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3 ?: T4 `5 l) ?. S9 D/ Y, |公仔箱論壇 2 h) u* G5 v; x& E5.39.217.76Someone said that:- r j @5 o( Q0 q' [% i1 O: D0 q3 t
I like this song very much! It is a little jazzy, and Sarah's singing and the music create the right mood for the song. 7 Z* y5 G( g9 a5 P p公仔箱論壇One thing is very strange, though. The mood changes between the second and the third stanza, 9 N' I* s6 h5 ~. {# j8 p1 x: ETVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。because she wakes up and realises that the gloomy first two stanzas were nothing but a dream and the third stanza is then more chearful. tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb; z! E; R) `' l
This change of mood is strangely rather abrupt: 9 f. q! h9 x7 @tvb now,tvbnow,bttvbthe pause is less than a second -- Sarah has barely enough time to catch her breath. ) ^5 Y/ `- ^' x; A" E: h4 mI would have expected the change in mood between stanzas two and three to be build up a little more gradually, i7 Z" B0 @0 f. S" K0 z5.39.217.76in five to ten seconds or so. After all, waking up and realising that it was a dream takes time. $ I" T% p1 {, s* N, V2 B$ ITVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。Hazan suggested that the last stanza could still be part of the dream: the singer has lost her lover, % o2 p) j5 D: |2 B& [) P公仔箱論壇continues her mourning in her dream, and as a reaction to the pain wishes it was all but a dream: . L. q% h f0 F$ [5 y
"I find you asleep in the deep of my heart", not next to her in bed. % E/ z' i* F! b" A9 w' I0 H0 CI do not think this is what is meant here. The change of mood, the use of the words & A" Z& V) W0 l# H; Z公仔箱論壇"I was only dreaming / I wake" and also the lines "I hope / 6 z* l; z8 Y1 z, \3 ]& G' bTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。that my dream never haunted you" make me think that the singer has woken up TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。7 C4 Q) r# x8 S; ?/ i* ~, p
(though the whole text is written in the past tense). : z# N& W) W4 c$ X8 o, M5.39.217.76 9 v9 P# L% }1 Y5.39.217.76 : q, R2 r7 l; {5 h6 b! B2 g9 n+ D, rtvb now,tvbnow,bttvb多關於黑色星期天,大概都話呢首歌係１９３０ｓ死左好多人，後來禁左．後來出左英文版先無咁恐怖（之前應該仲恐怖） 公仔箱論壇- B( L1 N1 z: U# [% J
"It seems to refer to the horrors of a war at the end. 5.39.217.76, Z/ x4 Z# Q8 r4 ~9 A( l4 {
I'm glad that there's an English version that makes it less terrible. - h) y+ o7 Q: STo be honest, I don't think it was ruined at all.We are a very pessimistic people, % ]' l1 g! y; ~3 O. k5 c. [& Oso maybe it was good after all that it was not made popular in its original form." 5.39.217.762 p3 e. r( J% q- `$ Q
就係呢個啦.... 7 w2 h9 I, ~8 U. G; `5.39.217.76仲有套movie係關於首歌,叫做"Ein Lied von Lieve und Tod -- Gloomy Sunday" . d7 d% h; R I* c公仔箱論壇 1 z: f8 B/ I! F O1 \TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。# }" f- H9 U8 m" J
作曲者不是法國的，而是匈牙利的Rezso Seress，1935年作。 公仔箱論壇2 u8 t1 [' x+ X7 e# n
被翻成了無數版本，英文是其中之一 tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb: e2 t0 l% l9 C) D8 M/ ]- i
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Billie Holliday, Louis Armstrong, Sammy Davis Jr., Elvis Costello, Stan Kenton, Ray Charles, TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。, c* s" {, Z3 ?, ~; S
Josephine Baker, Sinead O’Connor, Maurice Chevalier, Tom Jones, Mantovani, Lydia Lunch, Bjork, # R7 K j6 w7 B; h* fTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。Sarah MacLachlan，Christian Death, Gitane Demone.... tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb; `, L" R4 ^/ {7 Z
is there any way i can get the file in another source?TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。: o( w' ~% K- u v9 l9 z( o
the one posted cannot open作者: Kathy_chan 時間: 2007-4-16 02:53 PM
