; U% s& M' r6 T( J' U1 s公仔箱論壇 ; \% s9 t) Y3 A5.39.217.76其他關於<黑色星期天>的資料: 5 o; N0 A6 ~4 i( ~3 |# dEnglish translation of the original + }* u6 W+ i# V ]' d' l% j' i LThe original song was written in 1933 by two Hungarians, Rezso Seress (music) # j, ]- a& c' U7 S; n5.39.217.76and Laszlo Javor (lyrics), and consisted of the first two stanza 1 f" [- F+ U; z- E( C
only -- the last stanza was added later, also first in Hungarian, 公仔箱論壇4 \2 x" E# C+ O. P7 p9 F1 p
as Zoe Orosz from Hungary pointed out to me. TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。2 U+ R( l. ?3 e% h
Zoe added: 6 j; F8 Q3 w# p: `3 n& Ttvb now,tvbnow,bttvbActually, the second part of the song in Hungarian is not so reassuring at all. ' e4 P6 K3 T5 s) {7 c# m8 ?It is if at all possible, much gloomier than the first two stanzas, almost apocalyptic. . V& G+ Y4 L5 F% KIt looks like the pessimism of the song was too much for the translators and they made their translation a happier one. tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb& k; g- @5 L+ f) t7 h. w1 d
In that case one might argue that the translator has done a bad job tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb* o( V* g( ^ u& B! [ h4 P
and 'ruined' the song, or in other words: a translator has to maintain the original spirit : s- R( ^' n* B1 n, T' v% Yand intentions of the song. On the other hand, TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。& C# w; l4 G" C2 E! z! d
a translator may also be more than just a translator and based on the original create a new song. TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。$ @* @) h* A3 L+ _( E* q4 ~; p
Perhaps the Sam Lewis mentioned in the credits is responsible for this. # m. v. G, _# r
. c. p/ K& t2 ~TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。Zoe Orosz also made a translation into English of the original Hungarian song, adding: . u2 q6 e2 o* k% R( dIt looks like Javor wrote the first part and Seress the second. It is very-very gloomy. TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。+ ^4 ~1 d5 j" [5 ^
It seems to refer to the horrors of a war at the end. TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。4 R6 E b; x& Q5 i
I'm glad that there's an English version that makes it less terrible. To be honest, 6 d- _2 A0 x( l( A' C* N) K/ {I don't think it was ruined at all. We are a very pessimistic people, 3 [" G+ ~2 E5 ~& M) uso maybe it was good after all that it was not made popular in its original form. 公仔箱論壇8 W, V: E( A" Z w
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The war Zoe mentions could be the First World War, as the song originates from the 1930s. / Y8 E; |1 v% ~' m/ yBut since the second part of the song is even more gloomy than the first part, ) w4 V' @5 |2 t. M8 W% Othe second part may have been added after the Second World War.TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。- F+ h! w& l( K- E
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Someone said that: 4 ]5 }3 W8 q; G" lI like this song very much! It is a little jazzy, and Sarah's singing and the music create the right mood for the song. 公仔箱論壇# {: b( [2 v" I, O6 Z
One thing is very strange, though. The mood changes between the second and the third stanza, tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb2 Y4 G- T$ @3 b7 e7 a
because she wakes up and realises that the gloomy first two stanzas were nothing but a dream and the third stanza is then more chearful. . N# V2 s( B: c6 {4 c( j! OTVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。This change of mood is strangely rather abrupt: 公仔箱論壇( K- M% s! [5 P Y8 l! s- T
the pause is less than a second -- Sarah has barely enough time to catch her breath. 7 l$ ~& g, K9 z; ?3 B* _tvb now,tvbnow,bttvbI would have expected the change in mood between stanzas two and three to be build up a little more gradually, , p3 q! H. u) p3 F2 l2 H( f+ Z* X, X公仔箱論壇in five to ten seconds or so. After all, waking up and realising that it was a dream takes time. 6 Y3 Q" C) @) T4 H$ b
Hazan suggested that the last stanza could still be part of the dream: the singer has lost her lover, ' [( P7 A: Q6 z% j3 ~( M- `continues her mourning in her dream, and as a reaction to the pain wishes it was all but a dream: 5.39.217.769 }* o7 Z" c( D' O9 C6 ^5 y: i$ K( f
"I find you asleep in the deep of my heart", not next to her in bed. 公仔箱論壇) T0 N/ K7 k% u
I do not think this is what is meant here. The change of mood, the use of the words " [& C! M" j2 @4 `; N# M3 `5.39.217.76"I was only dreaming / I wake" and also the lines "I hope / TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。# t' w2 H& y7 f* n* ?$ @
that my dream never haunted you" make me think that the singer has woken up 公仔箱論壇. b, ^0 u; `2 Z4 q! p' ]
(though the whole text is written in the past tense).TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。: V% I, b& Z" f8 ^$ |2 d
3 ^' O, g) f' }& ^tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb 7 W; C5 n" j b- N公仔箱論壇多關於黑色星期天,大概都話呢首歌係1930s死左好多人,後來禁左.後來出左英文版先無咁恐怖(之前應該仲恐怖) 5 z$ O% J3 r+ K5 I0 d"It seems to refer to the horrors of a war at the end. , G* P R: A) u. ~# {5.39.217.76I'm glad that there's an English version that makes it less terrible. 0 y( w% |6 y( k a! T7 P: qTo be honest, I don't think it was ruined at all.We are a very pessimistic people, 8 W/ M0 w5 I% A' c/ n: pTVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。so maybe it was good after all that it was not made popular in its original form." TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。7 U" I+ f' G+ ?2 F" |8 g
就係呢個啦.... ' p8 O- S! Q* O5 c& _& p公仔箱論壇仲有套movie係關於首歌,叫做"Ein Lied von Lieve und Tod -- Gloomy Sunday" 8 E- u- Z/ d5 _公仔箱論壇TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。; F9 M2 `6 E( L$ e
; S q w5 J+ ]# Z$ Q; vtvb now,tvbnow,bttvb作曲者不是法國的,而是匈牙利的Rezso Seress,1935年作。 公仔箱論壇4 g4 _ |& S, m4 t8 P& J: y' M
被翻成了無數版本,英文是其中之一 2 X: T; t- Y) m O3 i翻唱者: 公仔箱論壇+ T- H+ Z5 ~2 n. U3 h
Billie Holliday, Louis Armstrong, Sammy Davis Jr., Elvis Costello, Stan Kenton, Ray Charles, tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb0 O0 V% C4 G& O6 n; R% V
Josephine Baker, Sinead O’Connor, Maurice Chevalier, Tom Jones, Mantovani, Lydia Lunch, Bjork, 6 T8 U+ ]* K3 `$ m! s% }6 D1 Q, b' @Sarah MacLachlan,Christian Death, Gitane Demone.... / o5 w5 J9 |8 E' A( Stvb now,tvbnow,bttvb: l7 f \) H6 @" o
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is there any way i can get the file in another source?5.39.217.76# Y8 g/ Z9 M# S+ ]* K; X) d5 J( ^
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