" \" h A! X( @. Z5.39.217.76這首殺人的樂曲終於被銷毀了,作者也因為內疚而在臨終前懺悔道: ; d3 r/ e: Z1 T% c6 r5 a2 P5.39.217.76「沒 想到,這首樂曲給 人類帶來了如此多的災難, 讓上帝在另一個世界來懲罰我的靈魂吧!」 公仔箱論壇2 B4 n" p. |. Z2 E
5 J6 |" Y$ {6 j公仔箱論壇 5 C% }4 ?/ G/ e8 N# I+ ]/ a) ^tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb 9 u7 u m+ C# d- L5.39.217.76其他關於<黑色星期天>的資料: . ^, ]6 q+ P8 @$ H9 y2 f- X公仔箱論壇English translation of the original ' M( {& r+ q8 ^
The original song was written in 1933 by two Hungarians, Rezso Seress (music) tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb- h; U4 q }( P) [* n" q) E2 X
and Laszlo Javor (lyrics), and consisted of the first two stanza " y- T: O& G+ y' JTVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。only -- the last stanza was added later, also first in Hungarian, ! i3 D6 J8 b" e3 r+ v& btvb now,tvbnow,bttvbas Zoe Orosz from Hungary pointed out to me. 1 j, N& T+ K* u8 T1 q+ f ^
Zoe added: ' t H A) Y! `6 TTVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。Actually, the second part of the song in Hungarian is not so reassuring at all. TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。8 n1 H. p$ }4 R# b, R7 [$ k4 S5 c
It is if at all possible, much gloomier than the first two stanzas, almost apocalyptic. 公仔箱論壇/ R2 F' b4 K- |" h, L6 J
It looks like the pessimism of the song was too much for the translators and they made their translation a happier one. TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。( ~1 w7 D2 w% U1 u- r2 f. X" ~: _
In that case one might argue that the translator has done a bad job 公仔箱論壇8 l* e) ^. v. L o9 O+ p: |
and 'ruined' the song, or in other words: a translator has to maintain the original spirit " c8 S9 A0 `, E |' k ~) g公仔箱論壇and intentions of the song. On the other hand, # z; Y) i" }4 d+ X$ ^
a translator may also be more than just a translator and based on the original create a new song. # L, a% S) ?0 S% I: TTVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。Perhaps the Sam Lewis mentioned in the credits is responsible for this. * M# ]- K$ q# E9 a2 m* iTVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。5.39.217.763 n8 A4 G3 k5 e% R
Zoe Orosz also made a translation into English of the original Hungarian song, adding: , {+ j( @& J |" m$ W* a( n4 d
It looks like Javor wrote the first part and Seress the second. It is very-very gloomy. 公仔箱論壇6 R7 ?7 i5 U( D" n
It seems to refer to the horrors of a war at the end. " C4 a4 f+ {) A5 i6 X' tI'm glad that there's an English version that makes it less terrible. To be honest, 8 b/ o. w; [3 O/ ?; q/ B, tI don't think it was ruined at all. We are a very pessimistic people, " P5 C: j" K% N; K! O5.39.217.76so maybe it was good after all that it was not made popular in its original form. TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。* f7 P% b7 r% f" `/ V% \
TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。6 D1 ~7 ^8 x: B$ ?& N' m
The war Zoe mentions could be the First World War, as the song originates from the 1930s. 9 B7 z6 g& h: o r* o/ t1 tBut since the second part of the song is even more gloomy than the first part, 3 y3 t c% `6 ~公仔箱論壇the second part may have been added after the Second World War.公仔箱論壇" B! C- w" B3 |' V# c0 N9 Y
$ ~+ m2 n* `4 |) s' i5.39.217.76 % F1 S% Q& C7 V/ xTVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。: G. @+ Y9 B a! I9 b S" ~ U
Someone said that:TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。 X& E1 ^9 ], \ r7 C
I like this song very much! It is a little jazzy, and Sarah's singing and the music create the right mood for the song. ' c- \8 S3 v/ l1 R# z5.39.217.76One thing is very strange, though. The mood changes between the second and the third stanza, ! E) f# w, f6 Qbecause she wakes up and realises that the gloomy first two stanzas were nothing but a dream and the third stanza is then more chearful. / W# h8 o2 Z: Y$ f' G3 L% l: [This change of mood is strangely rather abrupt: 9 U0 z$ e0 v6 k# d7 u( U% `5.39.217.76the pause is less than a second -- Sarah has barely enough time to catch her breath. ; e0 G8 P7 E% d$ G2 I
I would have expected the change in mood between stanzas two and three to be build up a little more gradually, , @8 L! a3 A. |) }& Y5 t6 M; Stvb now,tvbnow,bttvbin five to ten seconds or so. After all, waking up and realising that it was a dream takes time. 3 f8 h+ Z( }1 h* s0 ~Hazan suggested that the last stanza could still be part of the dream: the singer has lost her lover, 5.39.217.76) d0 Y! i4 i& [& e8 Y( C8 a5 K
continues her mourning in her dream, and as a reaction to the pain wishes it was all but a dream: ; R. Q8 I' O1 r"I find you asleep in the deep of my heart", not next to her in bed. ) |7 s9 l/ K! {2 p. K2 n公仔箱論壇I do not think this is what is meant here. The change of mood, the use of the words ' N: P( W. }4 r) v"I was only dreaming / I wake" and also the lines "I hope / 2 y: n6 [' Z Gthat my dream never haunted you" make me think that the singer has woken up tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb" N. t" N- ~! |+ h: w
(though the whole text is written in the past tense). 1 m, S( I& I( C& R5.39.217.765.39.217.76/ t) U7 _# k- }/ \+ {# k& n0 v* j
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多關於黑色星期天,大概都話呢首歌係1930s死左好多人,後來禁左.後來出左英文版先無咁恐怖(之前應該仲恐怖) 5.39.217.760 M0 C3 j, w) L0 y5 Y. F7 ]& S7 P! i
"It seems to refer to the horrors of a war at the end. # l* v1 ^' Q$ K+ b4 q% L# V# Y, PTVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。I'm glad that there's an English version that makes it less terrible. TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。9 E. E9 s% B K2 n1 f
To be honest, I don't think it was ruined at all.We are a very pessimistic people, - |9 M1 u: { P' b: p6 [) n公仔箱論壇so maybe it was good after all that it was not made popular in its original form." ; _6 d! }* o4 x$ o' r5.39.217.76就係呢個啦.... tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb6 s5 y# _0 K1 p Y" K
仲有套movie係關於首歌,叫做"Ein Lied von Lieve und Tod -- Gloomy Sunday" ; t# |) I I' M; {6 r" D; Y: _5.39.217.76 . c l) V2 L$ M- N& q7 W9 l公仔箱論壇公仔箱論壇0 u! q5 I0 k6 l9 A, ]' ^5 n) K
作曲者不是法國的,而是匈牙利的Rezso Seress,1935年作。 TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。* |& b& R/ v6 O8 `/ c6 P
被翻成了無數版本,英文是其中之一 4 M5 ?* U8 c) f- t! y- e7 r3 ^3 `+ s翻唱者: * ~% Z8 x- `8 e+ @
Billie Holliday, Louis Armstrong, Sammy Davis Jr., Elvis Costello, Stan Kenton, Ray Charles, 5.39.217.76+ Y! }4 P4 b' F' p% ^. c4 {7 i
Josephine Baker, Sinead O’Connor, Maurice Chevalier, Tom Jones, Mantovani, Lydia Lunch, Bjork, $ L1 Q- R }& e0 V
Sarah MacLachlan,Christian Death, Gitane Demone.... 0 X2 G! v1 N# V; B. D4 H$ I
is there any way i can get the file in another source? & I* t2 C9 x. ? r4 ?8 `TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。the one posted cannot open作者: Kathy_chan 時間: 2007-4-16 02:53 PM