_! u; C# ]5 O OTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。2012年5月: _: ^+ J6 N& r) w0 J
包致金出席記協晚會，指法官判案時，不應該「為恐怕被再詮釋而尋求某種詮釋」（to seek an interpretation for fear of a re-interpretation），對主動尋求釋法的批評，呼之欲出 j. c- l; N3 V z( q( u( d" K
tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb0 O; L/ A' c4 x! p 港區人大施壓 要求釋法# |0 `8 [: m3 l5 c
! [, h* ?4 L6 c F2 z5 h5.39.217.762012年3月 1 D/ }; E# k; z+ C( S30名港區人大代表聯署建議人大常委會，研究以釋法解決雙非問題，向政府施壓。公仔箱論壇6 H* G2 ?+ \! n0 r+ T8 Z1 [4 v
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% [9 l- R' c2 ~, p; g8 o+ B& K. ~4 UTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。2012年 10月 基本法委員會副主任梁愛詩，指責終院在99年就居港權一案判決，說終院無權宣佈全國人大及常委會行為無效或違反《基本法》，批評法官對中央和特區關係缺乏認識。她又指解決雙非孕婦問題，人大釋法是唯一解決辦法。' {" g! ~2 S+ O9 s+ Z5 k
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2012年10月 終院常任法官包致金退休前，指香港法治將面對空前猛烈的風暴（I see clouds of a storm of unprecedented ferocity.） . }3 R& }2 U1 @& H公仔箱論壇 / z c- Q0 y/ H ?: _4 w* i+ B公仔箱論壇包致金臨別講話全文5.39.217.760 Q% C! r4 { Z$ F7 F# O H' w
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There were talks about reinterpreting a decision of the courts of long standing. That is one specific matter. And the atmosphere created by the mere fact that this cause of being made, would constitute the rest of it.5.39.217.763 f/ U: P( d7 Z; m$ B: p, x4 x$ g
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(Q: Elsie Leung criticizing the judges)TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。8 z# t, | a( v
Well there were things being said even before Ms. Leung spoke. Ms Leung has expressed her views, which is perfectly entitled to express. But equally people who had disagreed with her, are perfectly entitled to express their disagreement. I happen to agree them.tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb% C% g+ {4 ]; R& o" \) q- F; V' R
TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。! Y5 @2 J- k$ }. G5 B 1 E0 j K& x" O" `, @* Z# h3 d9 n
(Q: whether Leung's comments would affect the judges) 9 _! D0 b) e8 }. l* K: rTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。I don't think so. I have faith in them to decide independently. Sometimes something has to be taken on faith. I know the judges. And other people don't.So I’m not going to insist that I’m right. And those people who worry are wrong. But time will tell. And i think the judges will do the right thing.* k- t9 P( }0 V5 c$ B+ a& ?
TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。* |0 O: l+ m5 v9 L. d* l $ ^ k1 o6 Q0 }- d8 A+ C4 [tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb(Q: whether independence of justice is being jeopardized) 8 A6 j5 }3 G, G: f$ C9 zTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。No.She expressed her view. You can't jeopardize the independence of justice in Hong Kong, simply by expressing these views. If her views were acted upon, the situation might be different.But people can say what they like. Justice would be very delicate if it was jeopardized every time somebody says something.tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb6 m9 D* i6 }+ M" a
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I think that she did have the right to say it. People who disagree with her have the right to express disagreement. And as I said, I happen to agree with them very firmly. But I don't think we can say that she wasn't untitled to say it.The wisdom of it is a matter of whom to judge. But if you choose to say it,then you're entitled to say it. Free speech is very easy to give other people if you only give them free speech to say what you agree with. But it's often been said by generations of judges, that you truly believe in free speech, ifyou're prepared to () it, to the people whose views who profoundly disagree with, and which you even think are dangerous,this is what free speech is about. ! d( G: H+ }+ vTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。 7 t' V2 f3 c( l7 b# \$ \/ n3 h4 @! ]( p
(Q: CJ's reaction) * r e; U/ \% b% T: e. nI suppose it's a bit difficult for him. We have to see what he does. Some people might have wished he would express himself more firmly. Some people think the calls he took was wise. It's for him to judge. ) g. z, {5 i7 W2 t9 \/ ]* U1 Mtvb now,tvbnow,bttvb5.39.217.76/ C# n0 v* |: x; `# _% V
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(Q:Leung saying judges have made some mistakes) - z3 k, h, A1 h4 M3 \( k. atvb now,tvbnow,bttvb[smile]I believe she thinks we have. But we haven't. 9 c; r% J7 O7 H6 A/ h* s1 |! ftvb now,tvbnow,bttvb ' C: Z! j6 N1 `: {; M6 M" t7 Q5.39.217.76 ; u5 y5 d2 g* s; W2 Atvb now,tvbnow,bttvb(Q: Leung emphasizing judges should consider the relationship between HONG KONG and China) - B1 Y$ D6 m( h公仔箱論壇No judge can fail to consider the relationship, when the relationship is the one under the one country two systems principle.# Q: t3 s ^- d; Q# X
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" q, w+ n% P2 F (Q: storm cloud) - L. S9 q- j, K9 o! x& }TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。I describe it as clouds of storm of unprecedented ferocity. I chose those words carefully. I think that's exactly what it is. But if your faith in rule of law is only when there are no problems, then you have no faith in rule of law a tall.5.39.217.768 h/ M* w: E6 I5 N5 x6 g
Remember that the free media is itself a very powerful component, may be the most powerful component in the defense of rule of law. So you're not just bystanders, you're the major players, may be THE most important player in it. I feel sorry of people who just sit and worry about it, but they don't include you. You're the free media and you have voice. You should use your voice. # u( k3 F3 m: {& V4 F5.39.217.76TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。/ d+ Q4 \0 T3 L0 a
0 p, B9 f* m) Z w6 F5.39.217.76(Q: about CY Leung) " T/ W4 B; x) j% |4 F5.39.217.76People of Hong Kong understand their rights. And I don't think things have changed. I don't think things would have been any different if there have been a different chief executive. The commitment of the people to rule of law and freedom of HONG KONG is unshakable. " ] G/ b/ A* A7 ]* HTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。 1 b4 f/ h! x; ? K) ^2 s5 ^5.39.217.76 * v" u1 l# G/ ~/ v: x+ ?5 k7 ]TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。(Q: whether judges no longer dare to give independent judgment like you) " x5 K5 U& c3 K3 ~tvb now,tvbnow,bttvbNo,I have no reason to doubt their courage. We have seen things differently. And I am sorry that I won't be there with them in times ahead. After midnight tonight I’ll be non-permanent judge. I suspect the cases they ask me to deal with will not be those type of cases. After all if they want me to deal with those cases, they will ask me to stay on. Therefore I won't be share these difficulties with my brothers and I’m sorry for that. But I have faith in them. & T5 l4 e* ~1 P9 x, @+ r) xtvb now,tvbnow,bttvb+ q7 [ j8 }# `# i8 c* J% {& V4 k
" K% Y$ w0 \* t9 _8 C/ }8 K5 u公仔箱論壇(Q: storm cloud)tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb N, Q1 f3 s3 U4 v0 t7 N$ J
I think the storm cloud comes from anybody, whether he or she may be, who doesn't appreciate the one country two systems principle. Now why was this principle necessary to be clear? Once the handover took place, it would be one country.Nobody would have articulated the one country principle, because it's so obvious. The one country two systems principle design, is to emphasize that despite the fact as one country, it is two-systems.TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。. d& z- G. T$ @# |- `5 f
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I don't think that I’m interested in identifying particular individual for where they come from. If you do not understand this principle, and everything it means to the ordinary people of Hong Kong, then you're generating the storm that I’m talking about.TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。+ k) A( G" S+ k+ A" M5 R& Z. ^
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No I don't think it's drawing in numbers. May be they're raising their voices more than before. I don't think it's more people. In fact I think there are more people now who respect the system than when I started (my career), simply because some people who were born when I started have now grown up to the age of knowledge and understanding. So the number of people that understands the system and the rule of law has grown, not diminished.tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb6 Q( z' X/ P- C
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K. J1 }$ u1 w0 X5.39.217.76(Q: about dismissal)公仔箱論壇4 {2 a& [( N$ f! f4 W
Who knows? I give my judgment. I don't want to speculate. If I was denied, that I’ve in fact been dismissed, then some people would say, what if his denial is wrong, either because he is saying that he hasn't been dismissed even though he has, or because he believes that he hasn't been dismissed when he has?Supposing(ly) I just denied that, it wouldn't be a good idea. % D9 x7 ]9 j: {- |& r8 u3 G* e1 y: U6 P8 G# d5 d$ L
So let me say this. If you don't think it's a problem, that's the end of it. If you think that it's a problem, then whether you're member of the media, the profession or the academy or anything else, that should not diminish your determination to uphold the rule of law. That should increase your determination. ' d" O6 m6 ~4 k( J* n: F& } i公仔箱論壇9 n3 e" c1 T8 c2 l8 x) B
Let’s not worry about what has happened to me. Let’s just say, assume the worst if you like. That doesn't diminish your duty to uphold the rule of law. It increases your duty to uphold the rule of law.TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。5 y3 d# F1 Z1 F/ Q& k; U
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You're the media. You have a role to play. Therefore you're the farthest to worry about than anybody else. People who feel powerless would just feel that they're tossed in winds of events. But you people make things happen. So don't be discouraged. 8 P4 X1 N# U# q, a + }' l$ L* p' }) w7 Y& FTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。If you think there's any problem that should increase your determination to support the judiciary. If you think there's no problem, that's fine. If you think there's a problem, you have to support the judiciary more than before. I have great faith in the judges.5.39.217.76; G& d. ~% i; {" S3 e2 I
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I’m sorry to go. I will be going to active retirement and it does give more time for the family. I’m not unaware of the positive sides of it, but on the whole I’m sorry to go. Mainly because there may be problems and I will be on the sidelines. It would not be pleasant not to be there for the most difficult times. But whatever happens it happens. $ ^ h+ ^% F' _- \7 F( A2 Q a9 j) |. p公仔箱論壇2 o0 [# y% N) Q: {& g
7 f& H( |) y/ L(Q: interpretation of Basic Law) 6 d8 X g9 r2 w- H) |9 u1 r4 pThe duty of the court to seek an interpretation is laid down by the Basic Law. And the basic law contemplates that the court will discharge that duty. And the court should discharge that duty in those cases where an interpretation is sought. But if the court doesn't seek an interpretation, then i think seeking reinterpretation is fundamentally wrong.公仔箱論壇. b5 w$ `! ]7 s3 @
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(To media)Thank you very much. Continue to do your good work. 2 y& [2 P0 m. {3 X" [- d公仔箱論壇 * [; F: S+ ~/ A# q/ u5.39.217.76 * N# G& r* r/ \6 M2 |(Q: few words to the public) . F- s' I/ Z9 R0 W: x5.39.217.76We're very lucky to have free media in HONG KONG.# {$ a8 N- Q0 m( ]' ]$ D. E" E5 S
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刘晓波：邓亡灵钦定的爱国 ! L+ x+ h& u. htvb now,tvbnow,bttvb6 @5 R! S+ p" z1 @; D
对于北京而言，「一国两制」下的港人治港，仅限于维持香港的现行政制──钦定特首的长期存在，而对港人的任何政制改革的诉求和行动，北京政权皆要强行干预。 ; t, q4 F. m9 B/ n* A* D- E- K : Y% M, v5 M$ l公仔箱論壇 北京本想靠23条立法一劳永逸，但去年（2003年）的七一大游行，导致23条被搁置。之后，港人争取民主权利的斗争一直持续，为了2007年实行特首普选、2008年全面直选立法局议员，加之台湾大选前夕「公投」问题的发酵，使北京政权既紧张又无奈。紧张的是，香港民主派的势头正健，区议会选举中的民主派获胜就是明证，如果任其扩张，很可能导致将来的港府不再对北京「惟命是从」。无奈的是，囿于政制的差异和「一国两制」的承诺，加之国际社会的压力，北京还不敢对香港的要求政改的强大民意和民主派动粗。5.39.217.76* G( d0 Z- x2 H9 B5 @8 `5 k
