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作者: 匿名 時間: 2012-10-27 01:01 AM 標題: 松哥该说 Mandarin 或 Cantonese,而不是 Chinese.

本帖最後由匿名於 2012-10-31 05:17 PM 編輯

前面松哥老婆差点被车撞那一幕，他说请以华文(华语)和我老婆道歉。而因该是 Mandarin 而不是 Chinese,因为 Chinese 指的是华人，华族。反而 Mandarin 指的是华文(华语)。

作者: winnie44 時間: 2012-10-27 05:27 AM

thanks for the explanation

作者: sallytong 時間: 2012-10-27 09:08 AM

Hong Kong people, before 1990s, only think Chinese is Cantonese.公仔箱論壇5 e1 l) ^. @3 B- a
It was wrong but we only think and talk that way.

作者: supergege 時間: 2012-10-27 03:45 PM

chinese 不一定是指华人也可以翻译成华文所以没有问题

作者: 屁屁zzz 時間: 2012-10-27 07:40 PM

i thought chinese is chinese, mandarin & catonese are dialect of chinese

作者: mrfusion 時間: 2012-10-27 07:57 PM

前面松哥老婆差点被车撞那一幕，他说请以华文(华语)和我老婆道歉。而因该是 Mandarin 而不是 Chinese,因为 Chinese 指的是华人，华族。反而 Mandarin 指的是华文(华语)。 ...
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Mate, you don't even know the definition of Chinese.

作者: superbasara 時間: 2012-10-28 02:33 AM

前面松哥老婆差点被车撞那一幕，他说请以华文(华语)和我老婆道歉。而因该是 Mandarin 而不是 Chinese,因为 Chinese 指的是华人，华族。反而 Mandarin 指的是华文(华语)。 ...
# N+ |' i" z5 P( y/ ikaijye1794 發表於 2012-10-27 01:01

Chinese 不單指華人的
查查字典吧.

作者: shiroikoala 時間: 2012-10-29 12:07 PM

前面松哥老婆差点被车撞那一幕，他说请以华文(华语)和我老婆道歉。而因该是 Mandarin 而不是 Chinese,因为 Chinese 指的是华人，华族。反而 Mandarin 指的是华文(华语)。 ...
kaijye1794 發表於 2012-10-27 01:01 AM

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What's wrong with the word "Chinese"? The word "Chinese" has multiple implications, just like any other words like "English" , "German" and "French"~~~ When you are in a place where majority of the public speaks Cantonese (which is a local dialect of Chinese), asking a person to "Speak Chinese" means you want that person to speak in that local dialect, i.e. Cantonese in this case!

I think your interpretation of "Chinese" being just a human race is far too superficial ~~~# z0 v$ R# v2 e" K! ]* r

作者: babazaka 時間: 2012-10-29 09:29 PM

me no chinese

作者: managementboss 時間: 2012-10-29 09:50 PM

可是每次都听到很吃力！

作者: 地獄天使貓 時間: 2012-10-30 03:27 PM

真系咩都可以挑剔一餐..哈哈哈...

作者: laito 時間: 2012-10-30 03:52 PM

其實入面d生硬ge英文，睇落又好match到齣戲，有種"專登講英文,突顯出地位ge意思...."
反而松哥同楊怡真係有d難頂(唔係演得唔好...只係個畫面實在....)

作者: 云飞 時間: 2012-10-30 04:20 PM

CHINESE，说的也对啊，含着汉语的意思

作者: biheart616 時間: 2012-10-31 10:53 AM

chinese没问题啊。。。到现在美剧里很多chinese还直接就说的是广东话。。。

作者: maxis2007 時間: 2012-10-31 01:46 PM

利害細微的地方你都看到

作者: kinwah88 時間: 2012-10-31 05:06 PM

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shiroikoala 發表於 2012-10-29 12:07 PM

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Totally agree. It's proper and very common to ask someone if he or she can speak a language, such as do you speak French or Chinese (in this case, Chinesse is a language). Asking about a specific dialect is usually a follow up question.

作者: hoppy 時間: 2012-11-1 06:44 AM

松哥用英文罵自己中國人，條數又點計，自以爲是，自己英語了不起。正是：漢人學得胡兒語，跑上城墻罵漢人。

作者: mrfusion 時間: 2012-11-2 05:08 PM

松哥用英文罵自己中國人，條數又點計，自以爲是，自己英語了不起。正是：漢人學得胡兒語，跑上城墻罵漢人。
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I agree, all because he want to show off his superior, actually downgrade himself.

作者: tyty1128 時間: 2012-11-7 06:24 AM

do you speak chinese? means 你識唔識講華人? 真係活到老學到老

作者: apes_hk 時間: 2012-11-7 02:02 PM

樓主真細心~

作者: bitbull 時間: 2012-11-7 05:40 PM

無需這麼講究吧

作者: kk1030 時間: 2012-11-9 12:59 PM

i thought chinese is chinese, mandarin & catonese are dialect of chinese5.39.217.76- g$ T( C( f$ Q5 k
屁屁zzz 發表於 2012-10-27 07:40 PM

正解。广东话(cantonese)和普通话(mandarin)都是一种方言(dialect)，其它例如客家，台山话。。。
而所有方言都是归类于中文(Chinese)。

作者: da52783 時間: 2012-11-9 01:28 PM

完全正確~~!!

作者: 大食琪琪 時間: 2012-11-10 04:30 AM

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winnie44 發表於 2012-10-27 05:27 AM

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this explanation above is not correct...
you can say " I can speak chinese ! " chinese does not mean only the race.....

作者: Icedtea_822 時間: 2012-11-10 04:40 AM

% D; a& G) u, s3 C, ?" G" a2 U) h6 Y( K正解。广东话(cantonese)和普通话(mandarin)都是一种方言(dialect)，其它例如客家，台山话。。。
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* \$ P( z5 g0 S! Z Mkk1030 發表於 2012-11-9 12:59 PM

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Exactly，讲得！！呢度指Chinese係中文咁意思！楼主咪鸡蛋里挑骨头啦。。。。

作者: flyger 時間: 2012-11-10 05:00 AM

樓主英文0分

作者: RAYNGNET 時間: 2012-11-10 05:25 AM

利害

作者: herobinbin 時間: 2012-11-11 10:53 AM

没办法这部戏台多错的地方

作者: ckalexyap 時間: 2012-11-13 12:34 AM

果然厉害！这么微小的地方都注意到

作者: s341999 時間: 2012-11-13 06:24 AM

11# 地獄天使貓 TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。# C5 g# W( n2 I- l k( t
So funny!

作者: kimgundam 時間: 2012-11-29 11:51 AM

一样滴，一词多义

作者: fengvk 時間: 2012-11-30 01:54 PM

都可以，不必那么细腻

作者: wk_leung 時間: 2012-12-6 02:05 PM

松哥用英文罵自己中國人，條數又點計，自以爲是，自己英語了不起。正是：漢人學得胡兒語，跑上城墻罵漢人。TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。! E, a/ ~0 g: ?7 w
hoppy 發表於 2012-11-1 06:44 AM

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應該是: 漢人學得胡兒語，跑上城墻用生硬的胡兒語罵漢人。
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其實都唔關松哥事, 對白唔係佢創作, 只係照背劇本啫, 不過他是背誦流利而發音生硬吧了.

作者: kazafkazaf1 時間: 2012-12-6 05:29 PM

利害細微的地方都看到!!!!

作者: lml821 時間: 2012-12-6 09:02 PM

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作者: razrstudio 時間: 2012-12-12 09:22 PM

agreed; chinese is too generic. mandarin, cantonese is more specific for spoken language

作者: RX-93-2 時間: 2012-12-13 05:29 PM

樓主所講的都有一定道理，因為劉松仁是演律師，法律的用語是細分D和準確D的，會少用通俗和概括性大的字的。法律的字眼好死的嘛！

作者: sweetph 時間: 2012-12-13 05:46 PM

挑剔一族.............

作者: ok_wong 時間: 2012-12-15 02:10 PM

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没问题啊chinese。。。得空查下字典再说话。。。

作者: minjia123 時間: 2012-12-16 02:58 AM

啊啊啊啊啊，好挂着松哥

作者: limkianyong 時間: 2012-12-16 10:16 AM

chinese没问题

作者: cklooi2 時間: 2012-12-16 11:55 AM

Hong Kong people, before 1990s, only think Chinese is Cantonese.www.tvboxnow.com& t- K9 @5 k8 W0 k: D
It was wrong but we only think and talk that way.

作者: ot007 時間: 2012-12-16 04:28 PM

Chinese includes Cantonese and Mandarin

作者: carol0916 時間: 2012-12-17 01:42 AM

the word "chinese" is good enough...is like you won't ask ppl to speak in "american english" or "british english"

作者: Starix 時間: 2012-12-17 03:20 AM

都可以吧....年代也不一樣

作者: oblivious 時間: 2012-12-17 03:33 AM

"Chinese" can mean the written OR the spoken language. It can also be used to describe people who are born of this descent. 公仔箱論壇; t, T% M! _% ]* Y8 p' V- U
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i.e. Can you read Chinese? <-- written' `2 F+ g5 h/ v ~ N6 |7 l( o
Do you speak Chinese? <-- spokentvb now,tvbnow,bttvb1 `7 R# c0 M6 \5 f+ {$ j1 E
Are you Chinese? <-- adjectivetvb now,tvbnow,bttvb% x2 C f3 H2 |1 x! a2 m2 ~/ P0 o

Since this series takes place in an era of HK before the late 1990s (before it is officially returned as a part of China), "Chinese" can be loosely used to mean Cantonese, since Mandarin hasn't been established as a common dialect of China yet. On the other hand, Cantonese is the predominant language of the local area. So, I think what 松哥 said is acceptable.

作者: juesa 時間: 2012-12-17 03:54 AM

其實用ｃｈｉｎｅｓｅ　真係冇問題。。

作者: happyday123 時間: 2012-12-17 06:03 AM

chinese...

作者: blkhu 時間: 2012-12-17 06:32 AM

mandrine就是国语

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