假如卡扎菲沒有「從良」 沈旭暉 6 S( J0 R0 @1 m. ~5 {tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb公仔箱論壇5 h+ `/ I! O& d0 D
' l7 E) {* Q) M# ]8 @TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。利比亞前領袖卡扎菲被殺身亡，死得相當難看，遺體還被示眾。不少評論認為這是正義的彰顯，會對其他獨裁者帶來警惕。但究竟這是警惕，還是帶來反效果？tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb; L- V! i: }# ` F. G
TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。 N, C: w. a- I' n 政績像樣的獨裁者 5 E. z! i4 g N& n0 `0 K公仔箱論壇大概很少人質疑卡扎菲是一名獨裁者，但他的政績，起碼在獨裁者當中，是像樣的。論及他的兩大罪名貪污和殘殺異己，規模均遠不及不少被西方當作上賓的國家元首，例如哈薩克斯坦總統納扎爾巴耶夫。納扎爾巴耶夫由哈薩克斯坦獨立開始執政至今，現在積極部署家人接班，國家有大量石油資源，掌握其命脈的自然也是家人。他對境內異見人士極高壓，卻沒有像卡扎菲那樣大搞福利，甚至連提高哈薩克斯坦民族意識也沒有成效，不少學者預言那會成為混亂的溫脇。但由於哈薩克斯坦綜合國力強，中、美、俄三大國爭相拉攏，這位獨裁總統在國際社會被稱為「中亞雄鷹」，而不是「中亞狂人」。就是中亞最殘暴、足以和金正日相提並論的土庫曼斯坦前總統尼亞佐夫，在一切人權指數名列榜末，但也沒有被國際社會正視，還得善終。 1 O) p) T$ {- ^. z/ @公仔箱論壇+ ?* `( C& C% }& I& f8 }! y
這些國家獨立時的條件，遠比卡扎菲接手利比亞時好得多。1969年，利比亞國民識字率只有10％，現在已超過90％，而今天利比亞的國民平均壽命高達77歲，營養不良率低於美國，貧民比例低於荷蘭，婦女地位冠絕阿拉伯，而利比亞的免費住屋醫療等福利，起碼在卡扎菲執政前期得到不少支持，甚至有觀察員發現，就是在今天，也有不少西部利比亞人真心擁戴卡扎菲，只是西方媒體不報道而已。公仔箱論壇3 N ?/ o, t2 a) q, o: G1 T
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If I read you correctly, you are writing about Hamid Karzai of Afganistan; Yeah, he was a "democratically elected" leader too; what a joke! So much for DEMOCRACY! : P" [8 M) K# U+ N; e7 ?5.39.217.76Actually he looked so much like villains in one of the Bond movie "You only live twice"5.39.217.76! ?" k7 T; }+ c8 \4 e' x! u& Q( D 作者: felicity2010 時間: 2011-10-26 02:26 AM
本帖最後由 felicity2010 於 2011-10-26 03:14 AM 編輯 4 \! U$ Z# q& e 8 G! O3 ]% u6 A' A5 Z0 F公仔箱論壇#norman.ho5.39.217.76/ |* w+ k! v5 f C
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"哈薩克斯坦總統納扎爾巴耶夫" is not Hamid Karzai, the current president of Afghanistan. It is actually the president of Kazakhstan, Nursultan Nazarbayev. It is one of the republics gaining independence after the Soviet dissolution. It is located in a region called Central Asia which is one of the most volatile regions of the world. tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb5 @3 \/ {* Y8 i6 q: s9 R
/ }% T% P+ I) u# w" ITVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。Since you mention Karzai, you may have a point there. In reality, the US must have a "suitable" candidate under her hegemonic power. His rise to the position is the culmination of compromises and bribery among the tribes, warlords (Northern Alliance) and drug lords. Kazai himself is the Pashtun, the largest ethnic group in the country. When we want to understand the situation in Afghanistan, we should also know the role of Pakistan in Afghanistan's politics. If you are interested, there is a good book called "Descent into Chaos" by Ahmed Rashid. 6 i- D6 u7 f1 [, H# k: P" q9 i3 J3 D公仔箱論壇 ; n7 P# s$ V6 N x公仔箱論壇By the way, I appreciate your desire to get the discussion going. However, I prefer to exchange opinion in the forum if I want to. I respect one's desire to express views when one wants to, I hope you share my position as well. I respond not because of trying to gain confidence of anyone, I hope you respect that.作者: norman.ho 時間: 2011-10-26 11:07 AM
4#felicity2010 $ N$ \" C. a; c- T, [& r. dTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。Hello my feline friend, thank you for pointing out my mistake. More than often, I find the Chinese writing rather painful to read, understand and digest. Sure, I've only got myself to blame. I wish I could truly be multilingual like you and many of my friends in this forum here. (ok. so much for shoe shining ). ' W9 D' p1 t0 ?0 ], c+ C. ttvb now,tvbnow,bttvbI comment on the posts here mainly because I find them interesting, sometimes I feel there is a need to clarify the issue, other times I just feel like poking fun at them. 7 {& _) T) X( f! {, W9 ?5 T5 _公仔箱論壇As for your posts, they are usually quite heavy and serious, it would be great if you could post some of our view in English too.
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