' A! |3 I5 A9 L- H J) ?八月一日開始的那一周裏,足足有六天,倫敦處於無政府狀態。事發後各級政府才手忙腳亂地恢復首都秩序。倫敦警力本祇六千人,四處借調結果,增至一萬六千人。受傷員警一百十一人。肇事青年被捕者,各區原共七百六十八人,現已增至一千二百人,其中年紀最小的才十一歲。這還只是大倫敦一地,散布全英各大城市的傷亡與被捕人數,尚未計算在內。 . @: p- ]4 T# ` L. J& B7 tTVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。 2 I& a) d1 v. N6 s5 J2 eTVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。英國講究保護人權,不得公布未成年犯的姓名。迄今已結束調查,被起訴者僅一百六十人,其餘一千多人還待慢慢查明事實,有確實證據者才能起訴。但倫敦警察總署所屬各區分局的拘留所,都已「客滿」了。 9 x: |" |# x: a0 vTVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。 ( ?- G% b. B1 T# A( U% t5.39.217.76久住英國的朋友說,今日倫敦街頭情況,與六十餘年前第二次世界大戰時,希特勒大肆轟炸倫敦後的景象,倒有三分相似。不過當年的斷垣殘壁,是戰爭所造成。今日商家關門閉戶的淒涼街景,卻是自家問題少年的傑作。兩兩相較,情何以堪? 2 v. h, u1 G8 z' L7 a公仔箱論壇tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb# C& l8 | e, ]7 h3 o5 C) U
人民財產損失之大,恐怕無法估計。英國有條一八八六年的舊法律「暴動損害賠償法(Riot Damages Act)」,規定因民眾暴動,老百姓所受財物損失,政府有賠償之責。此法從未廢除,政府將來負擔之重,簡直無法想像。即使賠上國家所有的財力,恐怕也不夠。 : j; C. q4 ?) j/ K7 N( E) kTVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。保守黨政府這次的表現,也很差勁。直到今天,還拿不出一份事件究竟怎樣發生的明確報告。當初據說是一個名叫杜根(Mark Dugan)的人,與警察發生衝突,中槍身亡,引發這場暴動。現在卻查明杜根臨死之前,並未對警察開槍。真相越來越糊塗,難以理清。 - A# `( s/ b ^4 L$ t" t8 wtvb now,tvbnow,bttvb今年才四十三歲的卡麥隆總理,事發時在國外渡假,臨時趕回英國處理善後。這位牛津大學畢業、去年才與自由黨組織聯合內閣、成為一百九十八年來最年輕的首相,只能在下議院發表嚴厲的聲明。公仔箱論壇: s+ m& @! m- V
; x" n! B. y, D4 D* d& F4 M% Z/ DTVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。卡麥隆說:「民眾大肆搶劫、破壞、和偷竊,讓舉國震驚,這就是犯罪,沒有什麼藉口可言」。他說政府定將嚴辦肇事者;今後如再有暴亂,警察得使用橡皮子彈,或用水龍沖散群眾。事實上他唯一做出的事,是考慮禁止電腦程式Twitter。此訊立即引起同屬保守黨的女議員LouiseMensch強烈反對。 . f' \) I- R! D! e* k一周以來,英國乃至歐美各國不論教育家、心理學家、或者犯罪學家,眾人議論紛紛,就是沒人知道如何才能避免同樣的暴亂事件再度發生。從另一角度去看,問題在於這一代的英國青年,不瞭解民主自由之可貴,和享受的背面需要奉獻。他們的生活太優裕,嫌讀書太無聊,整天成群結黨在街上遊蕩,出事只是遲早問題而已。公仔箱論壇' ]1 n1 V% D% ^4 v0 _, l5 _7 u, e
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也有人舉吉朋(Edward Gibbons)的名著《羅馬帝國興亡史》一書為例說,世上沒有永不敗亡的帝國。從十六世紀到二十世紀中葉,英國稱霸世界已四百餘年。物必自腐而後蟲生,列名聯合國安理會五強之一,原就有些勉強,倫敦早該識相一點,自求多福,更不必學破落戶子弟,硬撐場面。 ( G5 L$ O0 ?/ x公仔箱論壇公仔箱論壇: I, T# t" G8 O0 U
我的觀察是,英國真正的困難在於無法振興經濟。今年七月的全國失業率,已高達百分之七點七。放眼未來,國家經濟勢必繼續受歐盟與美國拖累,不可能有起色。高物價加高失業率,才是青年人爆發不滿的真正原因。一葉落而知秋,這次動亂會是大英帝國未來歲月的預演嗎?世人只能摒息以待。作者: felicity2010 時間: 2011-8-15 09:57 AM
史學家說暴動 陶傑 9 ^7 k7 q$ A: b' s0 |8 Y$ g - I1 q' w: m: y$ h5 R& C& @TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。 & _) p5 I" f' G) b t4 u# W英國大暴動,名歷史學家史塔基電視訪談。他說:這不是一般的什麼平民怨憤的大爆發,不,叫做暴亂,太抬舉了,這只是一場「暴力的購物」( Shopping with violence)。 2 L( I, P2 i2 _: g. L ! Q. Z8 {' o" j% `9 J( {tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb史塔基然後說:這幫人,本來是加勒比海的 Hip-hop音樂加一點Rap的節奏,變了種,就成為這個樣子,這不是英國的文化,而是外來的東西。 9 `' H, y2 u0 Z* L0 P3 p& ltvb now,tvbnow,bttvb 8 r2 }/ G7 V& V; H6 g' ftvb now,tvbnow,bttvb史塔基即刻被指為「種族主義者」。主持人追問:你的意思,是黑人的文化就等同罪惡了?5.39.217.76& P: \. E% e1 E# f( P# R0 A
史塔基說:我沒有這樣說。黑人也不一定是壞的,像英國工黨那位黑人議員萊米,他的英文就很流利,在電話裏聽他講話,閉上眼睛,你以為他是英國白人。這樣講,又加一條罪名,有來賓反問,你的意思,是英國白人的純正英語腔,比黑人更可敬( More respectable)?5.39.217.76. d' S4 o9 W# f2 f* Z
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爭論到了這等牛角尖的份上,就沒有什麼意思了。這樣的對話,顯示英國二十年來左傾思想之嚴重,直逼中國當年的文化大革命──有人要從語言中要求絕對的純淨,講一兩句合乎常識的話,即變成「種族主義者」。公仔箱論壇5 J" P. ?6 e2 W
史塔基是劍橋學者,BBC電視台「都鐸王朝」的歷史顧問,一生人只研究十六世紀都鐸王朝那一百幾十年。英國暴動,有人怪警察,有人責備保守黨,卻沒有什麼人說暴徒不對。 + r- q- O% M# o# o/ `; L4 w2 S: f. C公仔箱論壇5.39.217.76# K B& t! Z( G! u4 x/ R0 e1 L. b
香港的戲院,用杜比音響系統,記不記得電影開映前,杜比系統有一段宣傳片:十幾個加勒比海的黑人青少年,穿 T恤牛仔褲,把垃圾桶的鐵蓋子當做鑼鈸,把掃帚當做樂器,上蹦下跳,砰砰砰,表演街頭的Hip-hop音樂──全無美感和品味可言,只有年輕人過剩的精力。 6 V% p' C- R; `* pTVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。 + \/ j5 D3 j6 V) Z7 \tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb這份精力,風雲際會,就變成暴力和獸性了。一個亂世,需要知識份子講真話,不管真話政治正不正確,不管得罪了什麼弱勢族群。作者: felicity2010 時間: 2011-8-15 09:59 AM
本帖最後由 felicity2010 於 2011-8-15 10:02 AM 編輯 TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。/ ` V5 l/ ~6 c4 U% b
TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。# X& v+ f! w7 Y' H David Starkey claims 'the whites have become black' The Guardian公仔箱論壇" D. j' w* d& C8 v( g& H
: `( f) z6 {4 _7 nTVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。 : l. q, y7 Z, g V* wtvb now,tvbnow,bttvbThe historian and broadcaster David Starkey has provoked a storm of criticism after claiming during a televised discussion about the riots that"the problem is that the whites have become black".公仔箱論壇6 D* h$ @7 n E8 h- ?
6 H' M1 ]# _% A* r* I; [7 j公仔箱論壇In an appearance on BBC2's Newsnight, Starkey spoke of "a profound cultural change" and said he had been re-reading Enoch Powell's rivers of blood speech.TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。! p/ ^# E+ o0 F( ~. C7 p4 q* ?# x
7 S" e; L a3 D: _1 `TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。"His prophesy was absolutely right in one sense. The Tiber did not foam with blood but flames lambent, they wrapped around Tottenham and wrapped around Clapham," he said. ) _9 d" K. c4 u0 O# f - t3 l1 n6 x" G3 i, k3 l0 }"But it wasn't inter-community violence. This is where he was absolutely wrong." Gesturing towards one of the other guests, Owen Jones,who wrote Chavs: the Demonisation of the Working Classes, Starkey said:"What has happened is that a substantial section of the chavs that you wrote about have become black."5.39.217.76% s0 H1 b2 Y1 D8 i5 T3 X& O
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An outcry on Twitter began with the Labour MP Jeremy Corbyn asking the BBC: "Why was racist analysis of Starkey unchallenged? What exactly are you trying to prove?" A spokesman for Newsnight said: "I think that[presenter] Emily Maitlis very robustly challenged David Starkey.5.39.217.76! Y7 [8 c" T, J* j. f$ ]6 a
"The two guests [Jones and the writer and education adviser Dreda Say Mitchell] that we had also quite clearly took issue with his comments."TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。& Q* n6 t& e# q4 v- v
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Jones told the Guardian he believed Starkey's comments were "a career-ending moment". He said: "He tapped into racial prejudice at a time of national crisis. At other times, those comments would be inflammatory but they are downright dangerous in the current climate. 5 w3 O/ q3 f. _3 Q' Y6 ^5.39.217.76 6 {, I6 h. V1 u m公仔箱論壇"I fear that some people will now say that David Starkey is right,and you could already see some of them on Twitter. I am worried about a backlash from the right and he will give legitimacy to those views in the minds of some." On the programme, Starkey said: "The whites have become black. A particular sort of violent destructive, nihilistic gangster culture has become the fashion and black and white boys and girls operate in this language together.; O1 | l6 ~% x' [, P+ P2 H8 A
"This language which is wholly false, which is this Jamaican patois that has been intruded in England and that is why so many of us have this sense of literally of a foreign country."2 Z- `/ O! K; ^( ?) G" _# X" \
The historian and broadcaster, whose historical documentaries on Channel4 about the Tudors established him as a household name, went on to name-check Tottenham's Labour MP: "Listen to David Lammy, an archetypal successful black man. If you turn the screen off so that you are listening to him on radio you would think he was white." ' |+ I j8 P; F p公仔箱論壇% |% V' ^* o1 t) s$ u
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He was challenged by Mitchell, who ridiculed his theories about the speech patterns of young people."You keep talking David about black culture. Black communities are not homogenous. So there are black cultures. Lots of different black cultures.What we need to be doing is ... thinking about ourselves not as individual communities ... as one community. We need to stop talking about them and us."作者: aa00 時間: 2011-8-15 12:39 PM