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美軍參謀長聯席會議主席、海軍上將邁克∙馬倫(Mike Mullen)
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海軍上將馬倫:謝謝,校長先生。十分高興今天下午來到你們這裡。我還要向我的中方同仁陳將軍表示最深切的感謝,是他使我來這裡的訪問乃至這次整個中國之行成為可能。5.39.217.763 z" ^: H; b' {8 P$ }
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在我們對這次訪問進行計劃的相當一段時間裏,我一直期待訪問像人民大學這樣一所優秀的學校,與學生們和公民們交談,我認為他們代表著中國這個偉大國家的真正未來。
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的確,我對中國的整個訪問主要著眼于未來,我期待著今天同你們一起談談我們兩個國家——中國與美國,我們兩國不僅同有太平洋,而且還有可能共有光明的未來。
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+ j/ Z* j% ]$ t, Q就 我個人來説,因為我是在我國西海岸加利福尼亞州洛杉磯附近長大的,太平洋一直是我生活中很重要的組成部分。很多年前,我所服役的第一艘軍艦就是航行在太平 洋上執行使命。在此之前,我實際上從未去過海外,我至今還栩栩如生地記得我們在亞洲訪問過的那些美好地方、我們受到的熱情接待、特別是我們遇到的人們。我 從沒有忘記通過別人的眼光看世界時所得到的價值觀、文化和視角。因此太平洋地區和亞洲始終都對我有著強大的吸引力。公仔箱論壇- l( }& y) I) ~
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事實上,今天,美國比以往任何時候都更是一個太平洋國家,很顯然,我國的安全利益和經濟福祉與亞洲的安全利益和經濟福祉緊密相連。TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。" R; D6 c; N: C& {* u" Q

6 Z% C& z0 s: Q# g我們樂於承擔並全力以赴地履行我們對這個地區的盟友和夥伴的責任與承諾。我們期待加深和拓寬這些承諾。但如奧巴馬總統所説,美中兩國的關係將塑造21世紀,因此它將是世界上最重要的雙邊關係之一。我對此完全同意。
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5 g6 S5 P" e: n9 g$ \5 T公仔箱論壇美國希望與中國建立一個積極合作全面的關係。這一關係由我們在亞洲乃至全球面對的共同挑戰和共同利益所界定。
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全球範圍的合作推進中國的利益,也推進美國的利益。我在這裡一上來就同你們交流這些觀點,是因為談到我們兩國的關係,我堅信,一個國家的成功不應等同於另一個國家的失敗。
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% V( F3 w8 y' Y$ Gtvb now,tvbnow,bttvb雖然誰也無法預測未來,我們也許要等到數十年乃至數百年之後才能真正看到我們今天所作的決定是否明智,但我認為,我們必須認識到一些十分明顯的大趨勢和挑戰。
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首先,美國正在深化對這個地區和對我們在這裡有決定意義的同盟及夥伴關係的承諾。我們今天是,今後仍將是一個太平洋大國,如同中國是一個太平洋大國一樣。毫無疑問,這一充滿生機的地區正在日益興盛,中國日益擴大的存在與影響對亞洲具有重要——確實十分重要——的作用。
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& [- y5 N3 T; \. t7 J) E" n* u. ]公仔箱論壇但是,從互利精神出發所需要強調的是,中國的崛起並不意味著美國的衰落。恰恰相反,我們致力於中國的進步並從中受益,正如很多亞洲國家從同我們以及彼此的密切關係中受益一樣。
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6 i2 i9 A3 u. N' G公仔箱論壇我 們看到的另一個趨勢是,中國和其他一些國家正在努力迅速擴大軍事現代化。從歷史上來看,國家在發展過程中往往會投資于自己的武裝力量,這一地區也不例外。 但伴隨著更大的軍事力量的必須是更大的責任和更緊密的合作,而且同樣重要的是,更大的透明度。沒有這些,你們這一地區的軍力擴充不會帶來更大的安全和穩 定,而可能會適得其反。
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) |& q5 Q0 U$ B  [公仔箱論壇事實是,信任和穩定來自於建立信任的廣泛措施和政府間的對話,而不單單來自於軍事力量的展示。正如我多次説過的,沒有一個國家,誠然也沒有一支軍隊還能光依靠自己就做到這一切。我們彼此需要。只要一方對另一方失去戰略互信,就會給雙方造成困難。這是我們共同面臨的挑戰。這是我來到這裡造訪陳上將的原因,也是他前去與我會晤的原因。
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3 B; z, `8 u: `5.39.217.76我 認為,要增進透明和安全並更好地保障往往能促進繁榮的穩定,途徑之一是在我們兩國軍隊之間建立更有實質性的關係。美國所尋求的——與中國建立一種可持 續的、可靠的軍方關係並不是不尋常的。我會拜訪許許多多的對等官員,而且定期這樣做。事實上,我國軍方與世界各地的有關官員在各指揮級別上進行交往。我們 定期商討緊迫和長期的問題。我的這種互動反映了其他數百人的互動。
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+ l3 r5 n* b# o9 V其實,危機關頭我做的第一件事就是與有關國家的對等官員通話,因為正是在危機時刻,誤判和誤傳才可能發生。正是在危機之中,才能顯示一個政府和一支軍隊的真正本色。
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" |  s6 Q, j$ ?$ H# L  Z2 Btvb now,tvbnow,bttvb這輪對話也將擴大我們在利益趨同的領域的合作,並在我們有分歧的領域至少提供一些背景情況。
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國防部長蓋茨在訪問中國期間與梁光烈上將的會晤以及陳上將在美國對五角大樓和其他軍事重地的造訪也非常富有成效。
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8 J0 V- M& I) x, |# T. uTVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。在這次歷史性的訪問中,我們兩國都重申了一個健康、穩定、可靠的軍方關係的重要性。然而,儘管這些高層互訪應當繼續下去,但這只是一個開端。隨著時間的推移,同樣重要的是,我們的年輕軍官能夠見面並相互了解,使他們能夠開始發展我希望能持續幾十年的關係,而且兩國軍隊能在演習和聯合行動中共同實地運作。公仔箱論壇) I% F: X8 g+ ^9 E0 T. B

9 v! \8 \. H0 q# ~. r# M: h這就是我為基於我們5月份的磋商即將進行的接觸感到自豪的原因。海上軍事磋商協議工作組(Military Maritime Consultative Agreement Working Group)今年將在中國和設在夏威夷的美國太平洋司令部開會,討論未來的行動安全問題以及在海事領域建立合作。4 g. Q- l+ S5 O/ j) A
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我們兩國的海軍計劃今年年底在亞丁灣(Gulf of Aiden)參加反海盜聯合演習。你我兩國之間高級軍事醫學交流將在華盛頓特區、夏威夷和得克薩斯州舉行,聯合醫療救助演習將在未來舉行。今後有關人道主義援​​助和救災的交流活動以及聯合軍事演習預計將在2012年舉行。7 J2 L' @& ^: A1 O" b

3 {, R' I2 o5 f5 z: d. I/ s" ctvb now,tvbnow,bttvb然而,在我們發展這種關係之時,我們必須把它看作一種持久的努力,而不能隨手放在一邊,等到政治風向轉變時再重拾起來。為此目的,我想提出3個基調,作為我們兩國繼續努力的基礎。我已向美國人士表述過這些基調。5.39.217.76( A' k+ T. z/ p9 c/ W& \
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首先,我建議從相互尊重的態度出發。中國在過去30年為本國人民取得了非凡成就——從經濟增長到科技成果。在同一時期,美國起到了主導作用,為全球公域的安全創造了條件,幫助促進了包括中國在內的整個世界的進步。TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。' Z/ |# Q9 M6 P4 D  I* L

& Z0 _% y1 ]+ @" H6 {4 ~( S5.39.217.76當我們確實走到一起談判時,應該從對於對方的立場、挑戰、願望和利益的坦誠和深入的理解出發。5.39.217.76# {( \$ a* k# B
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第二個基調,是兼顧本地和全球的思考方式,因為影響到這個重要地區的本地問題往往具有全球性影響。5.39.217.76" o  b! Y8 N( L6 m
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例如,我們的許多安全利益都有一個共同的層面,以中國能在當地發揮很大的建設性影響的地方為中心。在這些地方我們的利益是一致的。
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! j% T7 Q9 F+ R" w5 N2 j/ f) |這不僅包括朝鮮半島的穩定,而且包括東南亞航運水道的安全,以及所有國家——而不僅僅是少數國家——都能安全地進入並公平地使用全球公域。3 b6 R! |" i4 J& }0 O* f
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當今,中國的影響力日益擴大到甚至受到更廣泛關注的問題上,包括伊朗尋求核武器以及南亞和中亞地區的安全。我們兩國都認識到正在出現的種種挑戰,包括核擴散、恐怖主義、不斷增長的全球能源需求、地緣政治的影響以及氣候變化的壓力。公仔箱論壇" V" @) D# x! s! ~, A, W. Z! b. a

8 v3 `7 z" u, `3 `因此,我們的交往絕不應局限于亞太地區,而應當更寬、更廣,以符合我們的共同利益及中國日益增強的在國際上作出積極貢獻的能力。
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! Y; q+ E" }) g( z6 Q  d第三,我們應當確立向前看、不向後看的基調。今天的中國與10年前相比已經是一個不同的國家,今後10年肯定還將繼續發展變化。它不再是一個正在崛起的大國。事實上,它已經成為一個世界大國。
' d+ k* y9 x4 ~. i5.39.217.76美國也在發生變化,我們兩國所處的格局和全球秩序亦在變化之中。公仔箱論壇- h! v( X: a! k1 u7 W. ]& x
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我認為,我們的對話應當跟上這些變化的步伐。它應當從解決我們雙邊關係中的特定問題和情況向協力應對更廣泛的共同目標轉變。
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7 l5 X2 V% L- n, d! l% {$ [( c: X: [將上述三種基調的轉變結合起來,便能有助於增進已有新發展的軍事關係,與我們已經看到的在應對政治和經濟挑戰時的合作相輔相成。
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當然,若不作出嚴肅承諾,這將是無法實現的。事實上,正是因為這些高層訪問進行得如此順利,艱苦的工作才真正開始。美國隨時準備儘自己的力量。
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我們期待中國為解決全球性問題承擔起與其日增的實力相稱的更大的責任。
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一個秩序井然的世界和一個欣欣向榮的亞洲不僅需要一個繁榮富強的美國,也需要一個繁榮富強的中國。/ J' q3 s* i7 B2 {1 ^6 {) `* ~$ P
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的確,毫無疑問的是,世界需要一個將自己視為一個負責任的大國、為確保亞太地區和整個國際社會的繁榮與安全發揮一種積極核心作用的中國;一個發揮全球性領導作用並帶來戰略信任的世界大國。
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4 R5 g% A& R/ u9 U" ?* B2 u3 Y我 可以向你們保證,美國隨時準備本著同樣的精神繼續參與,讓我們兩國共同努力創建一個未來:一個不僅是中國和美國人民應當享有的未來,而且是亞洲以及將我們 很多人聯繫在一起的太平洋地區的所有人民應當享有的未來。我一貫堅信,通過以相互尊重的態度進行努力,以全球和地區兼顧的方式進行思考,更多地展望蓬勃發 展的前景而不計較動蕩的過去,我們兩軍乃至我們兩國,就將能孕育一種更長遠的、更具共同成效的關係,以及我們都期待得到並應當享有的那種信任。
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感謝你們的重視和你們的盛情款待。正如我與美國的大學生們見面時一樣,我願意回答你們想要提出的任何類型、任何內容的問題。謝謝。TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。2 j% H" F9 f4 e/ n2 \

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從美國的角度來説,我們在該地區的存在已有幾十年的歷史。正如我剛才所説的,意圖無疑是擴大和加深我們在這裡的利益以及我們與這裡的關係。我們與許多國家保持關係,不僅在這個地區,而在全世界都是如此。這種情況還會繼續。+ G4 J' ~0 W. w1 a  n7 H
具 體而言,我想你指的是南中國海的挑戰,近來引起了極大的關注。但這並不是第一次。正如我在講話中所提到的,非常重要的是穩定以及隨之而來的繁榮和經濟增 長,這是美國一項十分重要的首要目標。這個地區不穩定無疑會影響到這裡所有的方面,還在很大程度上影響到美國乃至全球。鋻於近來所看到的挑戰受到具體的重 點關注,從全球角度來看,當然也適合區域和地區的情況,美國承認航行自由。商業通行的權利以及最基本的你在國際水域不受阻礙地在海上通行的權利。
5 }' T5 V" `' f0 n, X3 N與南中國海有關的事態,無疑涉及那裏與領土利益有關的挑戰。美國當然期待這些問題由有關國傢具體通過多邊或雙邊途徑予以解決,但其方式必須是負責任的,不至於使某一個特定的事件升級到導致誤判的地步,演變成十分危險和失控的局面。
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4 G) i8 v% l  E8 H% V( |海軍上將馬倫:教 授,實際上我不從是有沒有資格的角度看待這個問題。我在我的國家長大,所以其實是把它視為一種責任,我是從這個觀點來看待它。我想,如果我對你的問題理解 正確的話,在我的講話中,我説過中國是一個全球大國,我把全球大國等同於戰略大國,這當然是由衷之言。十分坦率地説,在我看來,作為戰略大國的基礎就是, 中國不僅是本國人民,而且也是世界的經濟引擎。tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb! C% z* v9 v' l
我曾經多次説過,一個崛起的中國、一個和平的中國,在未來對全世界具有非常積極和建設性的意義。因此我不把全球大國與戰略大國之間的聯繫分隔開來。我認為,中國以及包括我國在內的其他國家在全球範圍內以及在戰略上的力量 ——巨大力量,較之其他領域而言,更多地是作為經濟引擎推動全世界。有為數不多的幾個。與此連帶的是在外交領域、 政治領域、 軍事領域中的責任。它們都相互關聯。
2 e) F# j$ Q6 _' S公仔箱論壇我認為,領導人的力量——這裡我舉胡主席和奧巴馬總統為例——這種能夠一致地致力於發展這種關係並表明我們共同擁有一個將會有積極成果的未來的力量,會有一種作用,一種 十分積極的作用,使我們兩國所有人以前所未有的方式協調一致——在一個大變革時代,在一個充滿巨大未知的時代。
5 F  h) S% u0 O# |7 {8 O1 d8 p1 {; v因此,他們的領導力量令我深受鼓舞,而且,我在與陳將軍和中國人民解放軍其他領導人的關係中——我知道這種關係還很新——所看到的領導力量也令我深受鼓舞。我認為我們需要繼續加強這些關係。我們具有有共同利益的領域,我們需要繼續注重這些領域。tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb6 C6 E- p; K/ \: U
我們將會有分歧。大國之間一向有分歧。我認為,我們只需要認識到這點,並且用和平與建設性的方式解決這些分歧,其結果將會使我們兩國和地區及全世界都變得更加美好。公仔箱論壇7 M  n: r$ _/ M* h1 b+ O8 e
所以説,如果我對你的問題理解正確的話,我認為戰略關係確實與作為一個大國以及與之相應的的責任相關。我們兩國關係需要有這種戰略聯繫,與需要有經濟、 政治、 外交和軍事聯繫一模一樣。我認為其他國家正在一旁注視著我們兩國,期待我們發揮、而且十分出色地發揮我們的領導作用。5 n/ U( P/ X/ o# L) _

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海軍上將馬倫:我出海時感覺總是好極了。(笑聲)我已經好長時間沒有出海了,所以我很留戀那些日子。公仔箱論壇+ U" v+ g, Q6 L% D
我實際上已經談到,我的首次遠航是執行為期六個月的任務。那是1969年,越戰期間,當時這個地區處於十分困難的時期,在我國也是一個非常困難的時期。我前往幾個國家,第一次前往日本,第一次前往香港,第一次前往菲律賓。如我所説,那是我第一次接觸到如此眾多的各種民族。上世紀60年 代,我們一般不外出旅行。在座的恐怕沒有人沒有出過國。對我們這些在美國生長的人來説,那時候在美國國內旅行都是少見的事情。因此,對我這個二十剛出頭的 人來説,那是我第一次接觸到世界另一個美好的部分。正如我所説,我了解到這個地區的文化和精神,對家庭的尊重、相互間的尊重,人們如何相互問候,如何互相 照顧,對這個地區極為重要的耐心,這些我還很年輕時所了解到的一切到今天仍不能忘懷。
! V4 j$ k8 o/ C( k( f6 m6 vtvb now,tvbnow,bttvb越戰無疑對這個地區,對越南人民以及對美國造成了困難,但我一生中的一大幸事是,我在2007年前往河內,與越南人民相遇相識,看到人們在多大的程度上擺脫了戰爭。這説明瞭我先前所講的話。
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$ |7 T9 P' y" w$ G, L! {$ p4 W* L海軍上將馬倫:非常感謝您提出這個問題。(笑聲)你如果對我的國家有所研究,或許知道我們的國會有535名議員,關於各類問題常常會有許多不同的觀點,因此,我們的國會中關於對臺軍售也有這樣或那樣的看法。這無疑與我們的體制有關。從我稱之為決策多元化或多樣化的角度來看,這是我們的體制的一個大優點。5.39.217.76/ i4 C3 c' s, w; y
在我看來,與此相關的另一點也很重要,我們制定了一些法律,特別是與《台灣關係法》有關的法律。我們遵守我國通過的法律。
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過去,我們曾經向台灣出售武器,坦率地説,基於我們與台灣的關係和我們的法律,我們有自己的責任,需要研究未來如何對待這個問題。至於這種做法何時終止,那將取決於我國的政治領導人,我今天絕不可能回答,但是我的確理解您的觀點。
5 D/ H5 f, I% H4 x/ K我在揣摩這個問題和外國語之間的關係,因為你説你是外語專業的學生。(笑聲)tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb& t3 d. `' f# e2 L
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海軍上將馬倫:我認為這是個很好的問題。我認為,尤其對有能力改善農村地區人的生活而言,根本是在發展經濟,改善農村生活一定包括在其中。我相信,在全球一個又一個國家,如果有和平穩定的環境,就會有發展,而在我去過的很多國家,國內生産總值都與農業相關。國與國之間的技術改造交流——例如美國與中國之間——將會幫助提高你所提到的8億人的生活水準,在我看來,這就是巧實力的一個方面。
' [7 X3 ]& \. X5.39.217.76我在我自己的國家裏説過,過去大約10年來,我們的領導作用過於體現在軍事上,我們需要通過經濟援助、外交關係以及教育項目來發揮領導作用, 促進相互理解。我認為,這將會帶來一種我們大家都希望的和平的環境,進而能夠促進增長,讓那8億人和其他人有可能過上更好的生活,提高生活水準。5.39.217.76& X) W2 ^4 ]& U3 ]
所以説,巧實力包含著多方面的投入——教育和技術,可借鑒的程式方法,包括我剛才在講話中提到的,注重對我們所有人産生影響的方方面面——氣候變化就是我們當今世界面對的極其首要的一方面。我認為,以讓我們兩國都能在那些方面得到改善的方式共同接觸交往,是極其關鍵的,而做到這點的最好辦法就是享有和平的關係,我可以向你們保證,這正是美國所尋求的關係。
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8 z% Y8 I. V! T5.39.217.76顯然,總統是由我們的人民所選舉,制定我們法律的國會亦然。軍方對於一切事務採取我稱之為非政治立場的完全中立態度。因此我們確實執行我國總統發出的指令。  Y2 ^- |( w1 O) k
我們在美國的核心任務在於保護我們的國家所珍視的自由和原則,這是我們民主的基石,也是我們建國235年來的立國之本。因此從一方面而言,很容易執行我們接獲的命令,並且在最高層面支援美國人民,因為美國人民選出我們的政治領導人。這種制度已經實行了235年,在未來許多世紀中也將是有效的。
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& r; Z/ C8 X# f# ^) ^  ?7 T5.39.217.76海軍上將馬倫:網際網路其實是由一群國防部雇用的科學家建立的,我想我們可以説,它改變了世界。
& D' J" V2 X  F* z% K# w我 在前面談過這一點。從軍事角度而言,我們擔任領導職位的人必須以非常負責的方式使用此種能力。網路世界是一個我非常關切的新興的、成長的、迅速擴展的世 界。當我被問到未來我最感到關切的事務,[我的回答是]網路戰爭是首要問題之一,因為這種戰爭可能關閉基礎設施,關閉電力系統,關閉金融系統。我們還必須 認識到這個領域沒有任何規則,沒有任何界線,也沒有人主導。我們不只需要考慮它的正面潛力,因為正面潛力能夠造福全體人類;我們也必須考慮它的負面潛力。 這就回到我此前説過的,領導人和國家必須對其他能力負責,這就是其中一個例子。
9 q7 p2 ^  C( ctvb now,tvbnow,bttvb我認為我們尚處在真正了解其意義的初期,我和其他那些在成長過程中沒有使用網際網路的領導人必須確保自己理解網際網路,培養我們的個人技能,同時投資于年輕一代,確保我們能以負責的方式使用網際網路。TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。7 {3 ^: Z& T' I& X% _# G5 B
我想你的話很中肯,在這方面沒有回頭路。它已成為我們生活的一部分,改變了世界,這種變化還將持續。我們應該利用它造福人類,改善許多人的生活。這一切都是可能的。
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海軍上將馬倫:其 實我不太熟悉那個術語,不過我想我當然理解什麼是聯合管理,這可能是——我無法確知——可能是有人以這種方式來描述[我們的]關係。我對這個問題的看法與 我前面談到的對我們兩國關係的看法是一致的,但它也涉及我們——坦率地説還有這個地區的其他國家——所承擔的海事責任,確保它開放、自由、有利於貿易貨 運、並符合國際法,可以這麼説——我具體指的是通航自由。
" b0 |7 M) E) atvb now,tvbnow,bttvb第二個問題是關於制裁。我前面曾談到美國的法律,至於那些法律——特別是實施制裁的領域——都在我的職責範圍之外。我其實會避開那些由我國的立法官員和領導人決定的立場,因此我不會具體談論它們是否有效或者是否應該存在。我希望有朝一日我們彼此之間的關係能夠沒有制裁。5.39.217.76( j/ r1 z4 D# \; _% O7 d

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我還認為,美國在世界各地都看到——我到過世界各地——美國在很多方面被看作是走向更美好未來的一盞明燈。因此,全世界各國都有人對此鍥而不捨。他們仍然來美國,外國人仍然來到美國成為美國公民,從我國建立民主制度之初就一直如此。
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3 T- r* L- {4 \7 a& v公仔箱論壇海軍上將馬倫:我 先回答第二個問題。具體來説,美國無意把任何地面部隊部署在利比亞。我們現在在那裏主要是支援北約的行動。當我説支援時,我的意思是為各方面的能力提供支 持。所以,空中加油方面的支援就是一個例子。搜救又是一個例子。但現在我們不會,我們沒有部隊在那裏投入作戰行動,參與進攻。
6 g, f, h7 R' M: T至於阿富汗,奧巴馬總統最近的講話標誌著美國部隊撤離的開始,他在2009年12月的講話中決定派遣3萬名美軍時實際上就講明瞭他的意圖,但他們將那裏,他們將從2011年7月開始撤出。所以,他正在履行自己的承諾。
3 U* v% }3 ^- I( V' d& lTVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。在未來一年多的過程中,我們將撤回這些增派的部隊,到2012年夏末實際上撤出33,000人。但在那段時間結束之時仍有68,000名美軍將繼續留在阿富汗。實際上,如果你考慮到阿富汗安全部隊的壯大,2012年和2011年在阿富汗有更多的部隊可使用,即使我們撤出33,000名美軍。重要的是為訓練阿富汗安全部隊進行投資,讓阿富汗達到能維持自己安全的程度,今後不會成為“基地”和其他恐怖主義組織的庇護所,不讓殺害了3,000多美國人的9.11事件重演。5.39.217.76: S5 j3 }! l$ z4 g
這並不是標誌著脫離該地區,因為奧巴馬總統致力於與阿富汗建立戰略合作夥伴關係,就像我們致力於與巴基斯坦在該地區建立關係一樣,我們依靠這個夥伴關係和承諾,不僅僅只有美國。現在有其他48個國家在阿富汗有地面部隊,所以國際社會在那裏承諾穩定世界的這一部分,以便使其成為一個能改善國民經濟和造福本國人民的國家。這是一個重大的切身利益。該地區是美國最重要的地區之一,所以我不認為我們會離開。" V# C  ]$ r8 z: v
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海軍上將馬倫:正 如我在開場白中所説的,對軍事能力的投資,不僅在中國,而且在全世界,均隨著該地區的經濟增長而獲得加強。這十分正常。從歷史來看,這將會出現的。問題是 如何以一種具有建設性的方式獲得加強,並能為該地區帶來所需的那種穩定,這樣一來許多國家人民的生活能夠得到改善。我十分希望,隨著中國軍力的增長,我們 將會有越來越多的交流互動,越來越多的責任,越來越多的機會。tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb5 @& D$ M/ U! ?% V
在 我應陳將軍之邀對此進行為時幾日的訪問期間,我希望將來會有軍官互訪,有軍官來訪該校,到軍事學院或國防大學訪學一年。這樣我們能真正學會相互了解。當我 們在一起生活,當我們的家人相互了解,我們將會有越來越多的互動,我們的軍官能相互交流,我們可加強彼此了解。這在過去是非常成功的模式,我想對於未來這 也將意味著巨大契機。
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我要回到是什麼將我們聯繫在一起的問題上。這不是我們所獨有的,而是在於這些經濟關係。因為世界上還有我們與之有關係的其他經濟引擎。印度是其中一個,巴西也是一個,此外還有歐洲。顯然還有中東。這些引擎將在全世界推動種種成果,與這些引擎緊密相連的關係是絕對關鍵的。
( s9 E' \# Y+ g- p( f& a5.39.217.76中國的崛起是必然的。[中國]作為世界上第二大並仍在繼續增長的經濟大國,我認為我們所有人都必須看到這一點,而且我們所有人都應當努力找到最佳途徑,確保[中國的崛起]是和平的、富有建設意義和透明的,確保我們相互理解,從而使所有人口,所有國家的人口都從這種和平的、有建設意義的崛起中受益。公仔箱論壇& }# J) K, e5 u, R$ p5 B4 ^
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Speech by Admiral Mullen on U.S.-China Relations11 July 2011
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Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff
0 ~/ T5 b8 v1 X) N9 P! d5.39.217.76Renmin UniversityTVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。+ P( e5 [0 e4 O5 I$ H' U
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Admiral Mullen: Thank you, Mr. President. It is great to be here with you this afternoon, and I also want to offer my deepest thanks to my counterpart, General Chen, who has made this visit and in fact this entire trip possible.TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。3 M: y2 B8 O  |6 a- f
For quite some time as we’ve been planning for this visit I’ve been looking forward to coming to a wonderful institution like Renmin University and speaking with the students and citizens who I believe represent the real future of the great nation of China.& o# V! ^) }3 s8 m: f
Indeed, my entire visit to China is primarily focused on the future, and I look forward to joining together with you today to discuss our two nations, China and the United States, who not only share the Pacific Ocean but a potentially bright future together.
6 g% N8 w' F$ V6 vThis is personal for me, having grown up in California near Los Angeles on our nation’s West Coast, the Pacific Ocean has always played a big part of my life. And many years ago the very first ship I served on sailed and operated in the Pacific. I had actually never been overseas before and I remember vividly the wonderful places we visited in Asia, the warm reception we received, and most of all the people that I met. I’ve not forgotten the values, the culture, and the perspective I gained when viewing the world through the eyes of others. So I’ve always been strongly drawn back to the Pacific and to Asia.公仔箱論壇% W2 \7 n& c; ~" Y
In fact now more than ever the United States is a Pacific nation and it is clear that our security interests and our economic well-being are tied to Asia’s.
+ x$ A+ Q4 R: J$ u; }公仔箱論壇We enjoy and remain focused on many responsibilities and commitments to allies, partners, and friends here. Commitments we expect to deepen and to broaden. But as President Obama has said, the relationship between the United States and China will shape the 21st Century which makes it as important as any bilateral relationship in the world, and I could not agree more.TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。+ j2 o6 [: S4 T8 J
For the United States wants a positive, cooperative and comprehensive relationship with China. One that comes to be defined by our common challenges and our shared interests in Asia as well as globally.
: o% F/ M8 x# a4 L; w4 U6 H公仔箱論壇Global cooperation advances China’s interests and it advances United States interests. I share these things with you at the very beginning of our time together because I firm believe that as we discuss the relationship between our two nations, one nation’s success should not equate to another nation’s failure.
5 c/ v+ p) u3 l# k: a) j2 E5.39.217.76Such an approach that focuses on over-simplistic notions of winning and losing vice mutual benefit discounts the growing interconnection and the enduring importance of our relationship with China and our ties with our allies and partners in Asia, for we are all in this together.
4 B+ V, F1 |; K4 B0 X, N" VWhile no one can predict the future and we may have to wait decades if not centuries to truly know the wisdom of the decisions we make, I think there are clearly some broader trends and challenges we must recognize.& C7 ~" b6 }; u0 h6 g$ ]. @
First, the United States is deepening its commitment to this region and the alliances and partnerships that define our presence here. We are and will remain a Pacific power, just as China is a Pacific power. There can be no doubt that this vibrant region is on the rise and China’s growing presence and influences plays an important role, indeed a vital role, in Asia.
2 Y6 ?8 T& u- I8 v+ W; VTVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。But in the spirit of mutual benefit it is important to emphasize that China’s rise does not imply America’s decline. Quite the contrary, we are invested in and benefiting from China’s progress, just as many countries in Asia benefit from strong relationships with us and with each other.
6 B) b* ^2 @! h: q# r公仔箱論壇Another trend we are seeing is that China and other nations are rapidly expanding their military modernization efforts. Historically as nations develop they often invest in their armed forces and this region is no exception. But with greater military power must come greater responsibility, greater cooperation, and just as important, greater transparency. Without these things the expansion of military power in your region rather than making it more secure and stable, could have the opposite effect.$ O9 K. A( L, T6 y
The truth is that trust and stability emerge from a broad array of confidence-building measures and inter-governmental dialogue, not solely from the demonstration of military might. As I have said many times, no one nation and certainly no one military can do it all alone anymore. We need each other. It would only take one side to lose strategic trust in the other to lead to difficulties for both. That is our mutual challenge. It is why I came here to visit General Chen, and it is why he came to visit me.TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。% Z9 `4 n. Z8 d+ y3 g
One way I believe we can increase transparency and security and better ensure the stability that often fosters prosperity is to build more substantive relationships between our two militaries. What the United States seeks -- a sustained and reliable military-to-military relationship with China is not unusual. I visit with a great many of my counterparts and I do so routinely. In fact our military interacts with our counterparts all over the world, at all levels of command. We routinely talk about matters urgent and long term. My interaction mirrors that of hundreds of others.
0 K! n8 d$ v& D* b' ^2 k' W公仔箱論壇Indeed, the first thing I do in a crisis is call my counterpart from that nation because it is precisely in times of crises that miscalculation and miscommunication can occur. It is crisis which most often reveals the true character of a government and a military.
6 ~) C9 m3 n* O  b2 D) m5.39.217.76What we have learned over time is that one of the best ways to credibly change the problem of judging intentions is through deep, broad and continuous military-to-military engagement., K1 b+ Z) g$ X2 y$ A
This dialogue will also expand cooperation where our interests converge and provide at least some context in those areas where we have differences.
" Z, @" F6 T) ]3 [2 R$ f. O5 EAlmost two years ago President Hu and President Obama made a wise decision to advance and sustain military-to-military relations between China and the United States. While we have not yet completely met that objective we have seen encouraging signs of progress.
0 n) X/ s$ t; PSecretary Gates visit with General Liang during his visit to China and General Chen’s visit to the Pentagon and other military sites in the United States was also very productive.
" T- V1 u6 w/ U" N! j- p; oDuring this historic visit both of our nations reaffirmed the importance of a healthy, stable, reliable military-to-military relationship. But while these high level visits should continue, they are only a beginning. Over time it is just as important that our younger military officers meet and get to know each other so that they can begin to develop relationships that I hope will last decades, and that our military can actually operate together in exercises and joint activities.
6 P+ ?/ ?1 G& n  a; }# R0 Q公仔箱論壇That is why I am proud of the upcoming engagements that have stemmed from our discussions in May. Military Maritime Consultative Agreement Working Groups will meet in China and at the United States Pacific Command in Hawaii this year to discuss future operational safety and to build cooperation in the maritime domain.tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb9 z- M% Q$ N  |) a  e5 |% O
Our navies plan to participate in joint counter-piracy exercises in the Gulf of Aiden by the end of this year. Senior military medical exchanges between your nation and ours will be hosted in Washington, DC, as well as our states of Hawaii and Texas with a joint medical aid exercise in the future. And future humanitarian assistance and disaster relief exchanges as well as joint exercises are expected to take place in 2012.
% q8 C5 o8 H, X6 p- A) w; ^As we build on this relationship, however, we must consider it an enduring effort, not something that can be tossed aside and picked back up again when the political winds change. To that end, therefore, I would like to offer three tones for both of our nations to build on. Tones I have also shared with American audiences.1 E+ B0 e7 {9 @; f
First, I would suggest we work from a posture of mutual respect. China has made extraordinary accomplishments for its people in the past three decades -- from economic growth to technological achievements. In the same period the United States played a leading role in creating conditions for the security of the global commons which has helped to foster progress throughout the world including China.1 @2 {- ~$ a% B+ J
When we do come together to talk it should be from an honest and deep appreciation of the other’s positions, challenges, aspirations and interests.$ K) r& [. Z# V5 _( P' W1 B
The second tone is to think locally and globally, for the local issues that impact this vital region often have global implications.
- D0 N" y+ ^. o2 w8 J. Q0 u5 ^" z1 t公仔箱論壇For instance, many of our security interests have a common dimension centered in places where China can exert a great deal of constructive influence. And where our interests are aligned.公仔箱論壇/ |; y  j5 N+ N. g4 {9 p2 d2 w
This not only includes stability on the Korean Peninsula, but also includes the safety of shipping lanes in Southeast Asia as well as the secured access and equitable use of the global commons for all nations, not just a select few.
' f$ V# F. J4 L% J% S4 a1 R4 LNow China’s reach increasingly extends farther to even broader concerns, including Iran’s pursuit of nuclear weapons and security in South and Central Asia. Both of our nations recognize the emerging challenges of nuclear proliferation, terrorism, growing global energy demands and the geopolitical implications and stresses of climate change.
; b- D0 |3 X1 M- D1 G5.39.217.76Therefore our exchange must not be limited to the Asia Pacific, but should range farther and wider as befits our shared interests and China’s increasing ability to contribute positively beyond its shores.
3 R% p% L& f' l5 G7 i7 x# o, \' @tvb now,tvbnow,bttvbThird, we should adopt the tone of looking to the future, not to the past. China today is a different country than it was ten years ago and it certainly will continue to change over the next ten years. It is not longer a rising power. It has in fact arrived as a world power./ d! n& y# c0 @" E0 P" R- H
The United States is changing as well, as are the context and global order in which both our countries operate.5.39.217.76" B$ }: _. ?4 ~. R
I believe that our dialogue needs to keep place with these changes. It needs to move from working out the particular issues and conditions of our bilateral relationship, to working together to meet broader and common goals we share.
# y8 d, h7 p; _4 }2 W- h5 z1 p公仔箱論壇Taken together these three shifts in tone could help foster renewed military relationships, to compliment the cooperation we have seen in political and economic challenges.
+ Y0 c% w) Z$ G% e3 MOf course this will not be achieved without a serious commitment. In fact now that these high level visits have gone so well, the hard work really begins. The United States stands ready to do our part.公仔箱論壇8 m3 ]6 k$ x3 [. z4 R- {
We look forward to China assuming more responsibilities for global problem solving commensurate with its growing capabilities.
3 }. q3 ^6 o( d8 `. i4 a- M7 u5.39.217.76A well-ordered world and a prosperous Asia needs both a strong and prosperous China as well as a strong and prosperous America.公仔箱論壇+ q7 k, G% j/ G
Indeed, there is little question that the world will need a China that sees itself as a responsible major power which plays an active and central role in ensuring the prosperity and security of both the Asia Pacific and the entire international community. A world power that exercises global leadership and engenders strategic trust.tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb7 [+ w, y, U) H
If this next century is to match the dynamism of the last decade for this region, your nation and ours must be committed to the very things that have helped foster that prosperity. Free and open commerce, access to the global commons, and the peaceful resolution of conflict.
* c: h7 E5 {. A& U: m1 @tvb now,tvbnow,bttvbI can promise you that the United States stands ready to stay engaged in this same spirit, and as we both work toward a future that is worthy of the promise of the people of China and the United States, and in fact all of the citizens of Asia and the Pacific Ocean that connects so many of us. By working from a posture of mutual respect, by thinking globally and locally, and by looking more to this dynamic future than to a turbulent past, I remain convinced that our militaries, indeed our two nations, will foster a longer and more mutually productive relationship and the sort of trust we both expect and deserve.tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb) n5 ]9 V3 t& E2 S
Thank you for your attention and for your hospitality. Just as when I meet with our American university students, I stand ready to answer your questions of any type or on any topic you desire. Xie xie.
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5 Y2 A; G# b1 P公仔箱論壇President Yuan:
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$ ?% T& f: T( W5 Q* r. n, a$ AQuestion: Hello, Mr. Chairman. I am Che Mien, a sophomore from the School of Finance.
4 t3 i# O* u: ~0 s6 ]8 k# eFirst I want to really thank you for the splendid speech you presented to us today. Thanks a lot. And your speech has mentioned about the cooperative security and regional stability in Asia. However, we notice that the United States is engaged in the joint military exercises with countries like [Vietnam] and the Philippines. We Chinese people treat these as interference in China’s relationship with its neighboring countries, and I think this is also not conducive to the security and stability in Asia. So I wonder how would you comment on this? Thank you.
$ `1 L( _& @% C4 U. L% w. ]TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。Admiral Mullen: Thank you for your question.公仔箱論壇. f& x3 h4 \* C' h+ o
From the United States perspective, we have had a presence in this region for decades, and as I just indicated, certainly the intent is to broaden and deepen our interests here and our relationships here. We have relationships with many countries not just in the region but throughout the world, and that will continue as well.
/ O6 N$ u9 p' iTVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。Specifically I think you’re talking about the challenges in the South China Sea which have been given a great deal of attention lately, but it’s not the first time. And what is very important, and I spoke to this in my remarks, is that stability as well as the prosperity that comes with stability and economic growth is an exceptionally high priority for the United States. Instability in this region certainly affects everybody here, but it also greatly affects the United States and the globe. With specific focus on the challenges that have been seen lately, the United States recognizes globally and certainly applies regionally and locally the freedom of navigation. The right for commerce to travel and to essentially when you’re at sea to travel in international waters unimpeded.
5 G" v% [/ ]4 ?4 W$ O, Gtvb now,tvbnow,bttvbAssociated with that in the South China Sea are certainly challenges with respect to the territorial interests that are there, and it’s certainly the United States’ expectation that these be worked out by countries from the standpoint of either multilaterally or bilaterally specifically, but done so in a responsible way so that a specific incident doesn’t rise to a level of miscalculation which could become very dangerous and get out of control.
( n0 C; j8 \9 D8 U+ w+ ^- z+ r2 jTVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。So from that perspective the United States doesn’t take a position on resolution of the disputes between two countries, but is very focused on working towards solutions which are peaceful and don’t result in conflict.: `  e6 I; }7 p1 D

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Question: Thank you. Your speech very much impressed me and I am a professor of international [politics and strategies] at this university. And as you know, since China’s rise and especially economical but also diplomatically and I think the success of U.S. Presidents again and again, and the United States [welcomes China’s advice], and the United States treats China as a great power. And personally and as ____, those Presidents of United States including President Obama really is treating China as, for example, financial great power, trade a great power, and in a little less degree treat China as a diplomatic power.
$ o( f' K2 W/ fTVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。But sometimes Chinese soldiers as well as Chinese people, including myself, often feel strategically, United States seems definitely have not treat China as a great power and a strategic power.5.39.217.760 t! }5 X+ F6 U9 w& n: y. b7 _
So my question is, do you think perhaps United States is treating China as a strictly defined strategic power? If yes, and how would you like to define by your personal point of view of, and what mean China as a strategic power and which I believe and maybe you believe that China is entitled to be now or in the future. Thank you.
, ?$ ?& W- N$ O3 S' L. D6 WAdmiral Mullen: Professor, I actually look at it differently than from an entitlement standpoint. I really have grown up in my country and see it as a responsibility and I view it from that point of view. I think if I understood your question correctly, in my comments and I certainly meant what I said about China being a global power, and I equate that to a strategic power. And quite frankly, what underpins that from my perspective is the economic engine that China is not just for its own people but for the world.4 \" J+ l8 N5 y2 M3 v4 r% I0 V
I have said many times that a rising China, a peaceful China in the future is very positive and very constructive for the world. So I don’t disaggregate the connection between a global power and a strategic power, and I think the strength, the great strength of China and other countries including my own globally and strategically, more than any other area, is through these economic engines that drive the world. There are a handful of them. Along with that is responsibility in the diplomatic area, the political area, the military area. And they all come together.
' Z# W# n( d4 c" k7 n( atvb now,tvbnow,bttvbI think the power of leaders, and I’ll use President Hu and President Obama, to stand together and commit to this relationship, to say that the future that we have together is one of positive outcomes, has a way, a very positive way of aligning all of us in our two countries in ways that we have not been aligned before. At a time of great change, at a time of great uncertainty.
, g; W0 n1 L2 @TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。So I’m very encouraged by their leadership, but also by the leadership I’ve seen in my relationship, and I recognize it’s new, but my relationship with General Chen and other leaders in the PLA. I think we have to continue to foster these relationships. We’ve got areas of common interest which we need to continue to focus on.
3 e! Y* m3 O' y9 CTVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。We are going to have disagreements. Great powers have always had disagreements. I think we just need to recognize that and work our way through those disagreements in a peaceful and constructive way where both countries and the region and the world is a better place as a result of that.  S# C9 Y+ l7 |6 `5 C
Again, if I understood your question correctly, I think the strategic connection is really tied to being a great power, the responsibilities that go along with that, and is every bit as much a part of the economic, political, diplomatic and military connection as is required for this relationship. I think other countries step back and look at the two of us with expectations that we both lead and lead exceptionally well.TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。5 \( d( y& ?2 H- t, E; X; J
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Question: Thank you, sir. I’m Jang Shin, a freshman from the School of Journalism.
# V. ?$ Y% c2 B$ z/ G1 z/ tTVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。You have just mentioned that you have so far in the Pacific Ocean area, and I think as someone serving for U.S. Navy you must have spent a lot of time on the Navy ships and battles. May I ask how long is your longest voyage on the sea? And did you ever feel lonely in the sea? And if yes, how did you deal with the loneliness? Thank you.
* f  i9 s/ j; ^# P) X, H$ MTVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。Admiral Mullen: I’ve always felt great when I’ve been at sea. [Laughter]. I haven’t been at sea in a long time, so I miss that.
5 c, F+ m6 Q4 u- Y- rTVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。I mentioned literally my first voyage was a six month deployment. It was 1969 so it was to the Vietnam War which was a very difficult time regionally and a very difficult time in my own country. And I visited countries, visited Japan for the first time, visited Hong Kong for the first time, visited the Philippines for the first time. As I indicated, it was my first exposure to so many different peoples. Back in the ‘60s we didn’t travel. There’s not one of you probably who hasn’t traveled outside your country. For those of us that grew up in the United States, back then, traveling inside the United States was rarely done, so for me in my early 20s when I did this, this was my first exposure to a wonderful part of the world. As I indicated, the culture and the ethos that I learned here. The respect for family, the respect for each other, how people greeted each other, how they took care of each other, the patience that is central to this part of the world, all those things I absorbed when I was very young and they stay with me today.
) _$ K: t  V9 _% U$ P1 x0 V; d4 w  FAs difficult as the Vietnam War was, certainly for this region, the people of Vietnam, as well as the United States, it actually was one of the joys of my life to go to Hanoi in 2007 and see the people of Vietnam and meet the people of Vietnam and to see so much of that war put behind us. That speaks to what I said earlier.* H4 v( a( O. c7 Y
I think we will be much better off focusing on the future, learning from the past. I’m not saying ignore the past, but focusing on what’s possible in the future rather than dwelling on the past. I think if we do that as we say in the United States, the sky’s the limit.
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Question: Admiral Mullen, good afternoon. My name is Jung Xueuh. I’m a sophomore from School of Foreign Languages.
0 _2 N! V) {% a% ^As we know, the United States keeps selling advanced weapons to Taiwan. I think this goes against the regional stability and security you were talking about.
5 i* `7 L2 _( I- E1 kTVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。As we have noticed, some U.S. congressmen have also questioned the legitimacy of arms sales to Taiwan. So my question is when will the United States stop selling advanced weapons to Taiwan? Thank you.tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb1 ?! d: K: e/ ^1 b2 k
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Admiral Mullen: I very much appreciate that question. [Laughter]. As you probably know if you’ve studied my country at all, there are 535 members of my Congress, and oftentimes there are that many views on a variety of issues so that some in my Congress feel one way or another way about the sale of arms to Taiwan. Certainly it’s that part of our system. It’s a great strength of our system in terms of what I would call a diversity or variety of opinion as we make decisions.TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。& [8 R& _! h3 f$ J! i
The other thing with respect to this which is very important from my perspective is we have laws that have been passed to support that are specifically tied to the Taiwan Relations Act, and we honor the laws that are passed in my country.
6 r8 s3 W/ `  Q; H6 c+ `6 `公仔箱論壇So I want to be very clear about the strategic intent here to promote stability in the region from the United States policy with respect to China is a one China policy. We’ve had that for some time. And that’s certainly not going to change. We recognize that we have obligations to both China as well as Taiwan. As in all things, and this goes to the great power aspect of this, we always try to achieve the right balance with respect to how we proceed with any countries, including Taiwan as well as China, and other countries in the region.
; G, J0 V; |& J+ e, ~1 \; A1 HWe have in the past sold weapons to Taiwan and there are responsibilities we have, quite frankly, based on our relationship with Taiwan as well at the law to look at how we would do that in the future. As far as when it would cease, that’s up to the political leadership in my country and it’s not a question that I would ever answer today, but I certainly understand your point.
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Question: I’m sorry.
. ]1 G9 n/ c& TAdmiral Mullen: No, no, no. That was meant to be a joke. I’m sorry. [Laughter].
6 Y9 [6 L! p) q公仔箱論壇President Yuan: ____. [Laughter].公仔箱論壇5 O' k3 l/ ~4 X9 F$ t" M

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Question: General Mullen, I’m not a professor in international relationships, but a specialty in agricultural affairs.
+ v7 B1 ^2 v3 f' x$ N0 Z. r1 c- A公仔箱論壇You know that we have 800 million rural population. They are small farmers. They hope we can have a long-term peace because they are too small, they cannot stand any war. So from them, from their perspective, can we have a kind of explanation about the smart power and the hard power? How can you set up relations between these two concepts, and let us understand. We do need more communication and explanations. Maybe the question is not applied to answer because it’s a kind of diplomatic strategy, or not?tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb" c  D( u( F0 H- J( w0 ^+ _8 g7 A+ Q
Admiral Mullen: I very much appreciate the question. I think that underpinning the ability to continue to improve for those in the rural areas specifically, is the growing economy which certainly would be inclusive of that. I believe globally in country after country if you have a peaceful, stable environment and you have a relationship in the development area, and I’ve been in countries where so much of their gross domestic product is tied to agriculture. The technological improvements that can be shared between countries -- the United States and China for instance -- that would help and raise the standard of living for the 800 million people that you talk about is, from my perspective, that’s all a part of smart power.
% I7 F' v* @/ d0 f; |1 e公仔箱論壇I have said in my own country that we have over the course of the last decade or so, we’ve led too much with our military and we need to lead with our economic assistance, our diplomatic relationships, our educational initiatives to understand each other better. I think out of that in a peaceful environment which we all seek, that fertilizes this growth which can occur so that a better way of life, a higher standard of living for those 800 million and others is possible.5.39.217.76' y  k& t7 M7 @
So smart power covers a vast array of investments -- education and technology, the kinds of procedures that we learn, including, and I mentioned in my opening comments, including focusing on things that affect all of us -- climate change being front and center for the world that we’re living in. Engaging together in ways to improve both our countries along those lines I think is absolutely critical, and the best way to do that is to have a relationship that is a peaceful relationship, and I assure you that’s one the United States seeks.tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb( O& p+ V5 F8 O7 e) Z0 R! s
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Question: Good afternoon, Admiral Mullen.
) a8 S1 S) M+ E' U$ B- o1 ~5.39.217.76I have a question from ____ the U.S. Embassy’s ____ blog. I will speak in Chinese.
1 Z  Y# g2 P3 atvb now,tvbnow,bttvb____?
) F) |& @- B4 r- e% T2 U7 OTVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。Admiral Mullen: Form the United States’ perspective, the United States military carries out the orders and the direction of the President of the United States. Thank you.TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。' ^$ Q! J8 e. _) b; f
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Obviously the President is elected by our people as is our Congress who passes our laws. The military remains a completely neutral what I call apolitical position on everything. So we really carry out the direction that we get from the President of our country.
. k8 C8 a5 A; n% a  ?公仔箱論壇At the core of who we are in the United States is to protect the freedoms and the principles that we cherish in our country which underpins our democracy and what we’ve been as a country for 235 years. So it’s very easy on the one hand to carry out the orders that we’re given and to support, at a very high level we support the people of America because the American people elect our political leadership. It’s worked for 235 years and it’s going to work for centuries into the future.
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My question is about the internet. We all know that the internet was invented in the U.S. and was first used by the U.S. military. Nowadays the internet has come to so many people’s daily life. So I want to ask you what the U.S. military do to keep its separate space safe and secure? Thank you.
. |5 k, }' x/ }8 }9 ?! _) x6 B5.39.217.76Admiral Mullen: The internet actually was put together by a group of scientists that were employed by the Department of Defense, and I think it’s fairly easy to say that it’s changed the world, specifically.
; p( n$ x7 }3 t5.39.217.76I spoke of this earlier. It is for those of us in leadership positions to handle this kind of capability from a military standpoint very responsibly. And the world of cyber is an emerging, growing, rapidly expanding world that concerns me greatly. When I get asked questions about what I’m most concerned about in the future, cyber warfare is at the top because that warfare has the capability for shutting down infrastructure, shutting down power systems, shutting down financial systems, and it’s very important to recognize that it’s an area that doesn’t have any rules, doesn’t have any boundaries, nobody’s in charge, and I think we have to recognize not just the upside potential, because the upside potential benefits all of us. But the downside potential. That gets back to what I said earlier in terms of leadership and countries being responsible with respect to other capabilities, but this would be an example of that.tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb4 y; f0 O, B: F* X3 o* L3 @
I think we’re in the early stages of really understanding what this means, and that leaders like myself and others who didn’t grow up with cyber have to make sure we make room for understanding, we develop the skills personally as well as we invest in our young people to ensure that we’re able to handle this in a responsible way.TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。+ c7 H! `6 I" m) W% C' z
I think you made the point, there’s no looking back here. It is with us, it’s changed the world and that will continue into the future. We should focus on it for the betterment of humanity and making a difference in so many people’s lives. All of that is possible.TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。. {- `, B) W; {8 `8 n4 @- O! q

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Question: Thank you, General Mullen. I have two small questions.tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb0 H. G7 U1 I, z) s! h
First, in the recent days some American media talk about the Western Pacific China-American joint management. What are the specific contents. Are those the panel for what you call the greater Chinese responsibility? The first question.
" n2 n1 }  j! w; k  WSecondly, as one of the top officials from DoD, how do you estimate or comment on the effects of the American military sanctions against China after 22 years? Thank you very much.
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Question: The China-U.S. West Pacific joint management, some American media are talking about that in recent days. How do you think about that? What is the specific contents? Thank you.tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb# y2 ?+ Z) l" R& \, N# U
Admiral Mullen: Actually, I’m not familiar with the term, but I think I certainly understand of the joint management, that may have been, and I just don’t know, that may have been how someone characterized the relationship. How I think about that is aligned with what I said earlier in terms of the relationship we have between our two countries, but also the responsibilities that we and quite frankly other countries have in the region for the maritime domain and ensuring that it’s open and free, commerce can travel, and it’s done so in a way that recognizes the international law, if you will -- I spoke of freedom of navigation very specifically.5.39.217.76* F0 o+ i9 v$ N1 P9 g) ^
The second question was about sanctions specifically. I spoke earlier of the laws in my country, and those laws and specifically the areas that have been focused on in sanctions, they’re outside my particular purview. I actually stay away from that from the standpoint of those are decided by the lawmakers and the leadership in my country and so I wouldn’t speak to the specifics as to how effective or whether or not they should be there. I would hope someday we’d have a relationship where there were no sanctions.公仔箱論壇& x& V( O6 ?9 B( j" T
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9 A( Z! s: r  H( U1 g4 U1 z公仔箱論壇Admiral Mullen: Hello. [Laughter].
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Admiral Mullen: I think from the United States perspective obviously democracy is something that we believe in, because it’s who we are. We’ve also seen its affects in many other countries in the world. I don’t share the view that we’re trying to impose it on anybody. We recognize sovereign countries, their right to have the kind of government they want to have to in fact develop the way they want to develop, and again, we’re not in a position to try to impose our version of democracy on any country. I think we have, there is an expectation globally that the United States will lead and that’s an expectation that’s held whether it is friend or foe, and we feel a responsibility to lead in many areas, and we are doing that now and we’re going to do that in the future.tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb8 w3 Y. i( \- s
I also think the United States has seen throughout the world, and I’ve been all over the world, is seen in many ways as a very bright light to a better future. So there are peoples all over the world that seek that. They still come, foreigners still come to America to become American citizens as has happened from the beginning of our democracy.3 Z& M& A- a. b+ X. ], _+ D/ D5 x
So I think more along the lines of it being an example and a hope, but not an imposition, and certainly a system that I know you know that I very strongly believe in.
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I’m not quite sure, ten years after launch of the war, the decision is finally made by President Obama to withdraw the troops from Afghanistan. So if I may, it means some kind of failure in Afghanistan war and at the same time, given the ongoing situation in Libya, will the U.S. send ground troops to Libya? And if the U.S. captured Gadhafi, will he be treated the same way just like Saddam Hussein? Thank you.
- E3 U, |7 q, N- [/ f* jtvb now,tvbnow,bttvbAdmiral Mullen: I’ll answer the second part first. The United States has no intention of putting any ground troops in Libya specifically. We are there now very much in support of the NATO operation. And when I say support I really mean in support kinds of capabilities. So refueling support would be an example. Search and rescue would be an example. But we are not, we don’t have forces there that are striking, offensively striking in Libya as we speak.+ Q% h4 [6 P9 s/ g6 K9 B
With respect to Afghanistan, President Obama’s recent speech signaled the beginning of the withdrawal of the United States forces, and it’s something that he actually stated his intent in his December 2009 speech when he made the decision to send in 30,000 U.S. troops, but they would be there, they would start to be withdrawn in July of 2011. So he’s keeping that commitment.
3 |5 A+ T/ R: a0 `Over the course of the next year-plus, we will withdraw those surge troops, actually 33,000 troops by the end of summer, 2012. But at the end of that timeframe there are still 68,000 United States troops that will remain in Afghanistan. In fact when you add the growth of the Afghan security forces there will be more forces available in Afghanistan in 2012 and 2011, even as we bring out the United States 33,000 troops. What is important in that is the investment in the training of the Afghan Security Forces, getting Afghanistan to a point where it can provide for its own security so that it does not in the future become a safe haven for al-Qaida or another terrorist organization to allow the kind of attacks that killed 3,000-plus Americans on 9/11 to ever occur again.tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb( w" E) m0 ^6 C
It does not signal a departure from the area because President Obama is committed to a strategic partnership and relationship with Afghanistan as we are to Pakistan and with the region, and we look to that partnership and that commitment, and it’s not just the United States. There are 48 other countries with ground troops in Afghanistan right now, so there’s an international commitment there to stabilize that part of the world so that it too can be a country that improves its economy and takes care of its people. It’s a vital interest. The region is a vital one for the United States, so I don’t see us going away.tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb( Z3 _7 k% R# Z9 a6 y9 C- q

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Question: Thank you, Admiral, for your speech. I’m from School of International Studies and my major is diplomacy.0 ~, b9 ?3 g* ?+ J3 T: k. l
I ask you a question about military action or military theory, but I want to ask the question in Chinese, I think. I express myself completely.5.39.217.76. i" k* P3 \/ C" f" ]* c
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% l. P( l) f! U1 R6 f' a+ Vtvb now,tvbnow,bttvbAdmiral Mullen: As I said in my opening remarks, the investment in military capabilities, not just in China but throughout the region, has grown with the improved economies in the region. That’s fairly normal. Historically that’s expected to happen. The challenge will be growing in a way that is very constructive and provides the kind of stability for the region that is needed so that the peoples can actually, many countries, that their lives can improve. I have every expectation that as China’s military grows we will have more and more interactions, more and more responsibilities, more and more opportunities.5.39.217.76/ \9 |2 S, ~: [/ W
While I am here to visit over the course of these few days at the invitation of General Chen, I am hopeful in the future that we would have military officers that would be doing exchange visits; that we would have military officers who come to school here, to the War College or the National Defense University for a year. That’s truly the time where we learn to understand each other. When we live with each other, when our families get to know each other, we have more and more exercises where we exchange officers so that we can learn more about each other. That’s been a very successful model in the past, and I think it has great possibilities for the future.5.39.217.76& i( [$ Q1 t; o( {( z+ f
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Question: Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and welcome to RUC. My name is Jeng Yuchien. I’m a professor of English language, I teach English. One thing I would like to let you know, after your visit you will have many fans, admirers, not just because of your clear articulation of the good American accent but also because of the good contents in your talk. [Laughter]. You have left us with some good quotations. I have noted down a few.5.39.217.76; X* o! |& }, @! F
One is the relationship between the U.S. and China will shape the world. This is one quotation I like very much.  u! u2 h0 k5 _7 L/ g& O/ f6 }
The second is that China’s rise does not mean the decline of the United States. Here I would like to ask one little question. How many people in the Congress, a round figure will do, can agree with this statement? The rise of China does not mean the decline of America. Thank you.
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Admiral Mullen: Actually LI believe that if we get this right eventually all of them will believe that’s okay. We are clearly now at a time of great change for my country, for your country. Times of change are both exciting, many opportunities, but also present many many challenges.5.39.217.76* _. ~, t  _7 ~, u% T
I would go back to what ties us together. And it’s not us uniquely, but it’s these economic ties. Because there are other economic engines in the world that I think we all have relationships with. India is one, Brazil is another, Europe is another. Obviously the Middle East. Those are the engines that are going to drive outcomes in the world and relationships that are tied to those are absolutely critical.tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb# t" N6 |( T$ }8 X# D: y7 j9 f
China’s rise is inevitable. As the number two global economic power in the world and continuing to grow, I think all of us have to recognize that and that it would behoove all of us to figure out the best way to make sure that’s done peacefully, constructively, transparently, and that we understand each other so that everybody’s population, the people of all the countries benefit from that peaceful, constructive rise.
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歷史恩怨難以勾銷
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美國參謀長聯席會議主席馬倫關於「中美兩軍恐怕永遠無法建立起夥伴關係」的論述,其實乃坦白之言,凸顯美國軍人的直率。
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  y" f0 }, `5 c: s& `$ d" Q其實,中國軍人基於歷史恩怨和革命意識,一直懷有深刻的仇美情結,且不說清末《望廈條約》和「八國聯軍」的陳年舊事,就以抗戰勝利後的四年內戰,解放軍認定蔣介石的八百萬軍隊是由美國一手裝備、一手支援的;台海兩岸之所以分裂至今,全拜一九五○年六月韓戰爆發後美國第七艦隊陳兵台灣海峽所賜;而三年韓戰更是中美兩國軍隊直接交手,中方死傷軍人數以十萬計,美方也傷亡數以萬計,上甘嶺被稱為「傷心嶺」,美國軍頭承認韓戰是「在錯誤的時間、錯誤的地點與錯誤的敵人進行的錯誤的戰爭」,教訓深刻!至六、七十年代,美軍狂炸北越,實際交手的防空部隊主力乃是偽裝成越軍的中國軍人!可以說,中美兩軍手上都沾滿了對方的鮮血!
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